Lt. Gen. Boykin Fired for Free Speech

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

I already answered that question. There is an OP to this thread and I am no where in it, for further reference.

No - you didn't - not even close

This OP is about freedom of speech (Ha!)...and so much more

You've made comments in this thread that you won't actually defend. If you're tired - I'll let you go

However, for the record - your answer is important to the topic. You will not be pinned down...

Enough said?

:-)

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gryphon66

If you punch a man for saying a joke about your mother, is that the consequence of his speech, or the consequence of you being unable to take a joke?

If a person is found to be unfit to be a parent because they verbally abuse their children, is that the consequence of their speech, or the consequences of the child being too much of a pansy to take it?

For one, I'm not sure you know what a consequence is. There is a causal sequence with causal links, like a chain. What is the causal link between speech and consequences? Does the words fly through the air and hit a consequence button?

Ok, you're stepping back in to nutter philosophy land. We need you to come back to reality before we can continue.

Better than nutter socialist land. I'll be here when you get back.

To a bystander, it seems that another posters words are not only affecting you, but are causing you to post in a parroting manner?

Why is that given your recent assertions?

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gryphon66

If you punch a man for saying a joke about your mother, is that the consequence of his speech, or the consequence of you being unable to take a joke?

If a person is found to be unfit to be a parent because they verbally abuse their children, is that the consequence of their speech, or the consequences of the child being too much of a pansy to take it?

For one, I'm not sure you know what a consequence is. There is a causal sequence with causal links, like a chain. What is the causal link between speech and consequences? Does the words fly through the air and hit a consequence button?

Ok, you're stepping back in to nutter philosophy land. We need you to come back to reality before we can continue.

Better than nutter socialist land. I'll be here when you get back.

In the words of the Right Wing nuts, someone's been "triggered".

a reply to: Hazardous1408

Yes, it's his business, his rules. He doesn't allow free speech, so it's not a free speech zone, and he can fire at will.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gryphon66

If you punch a man for saying a joke about your mother, is that the consequence of his speech, or the consequence of you being unable to take a joke?

Exactly, but, people against free speech are going to have to tell you what is or isn't a joke before you say it. How do you take responsibility for something that you don't know will be as you intended it to be?

The responsibility falls on the offended not the free speaker.

a reply to: Snarl

Rule 1 of Freedom of Speech: Freedom of speech does not grant you freedom from consequences.

Rule 2 of Freedom of Speech: See Rule 1.

a reply to: Gryphon66

I like to return attitudes in kind.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gryphon66

I like to return attitudes in kind.

How did you detect the other poster's "attitude"?

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

Im flattered.

a reply to: Gryphon66

A little bit of projection, a little bit of guessing. He could be trolling me for all I know.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gryphon66

A little bit of projection, a little bit of guessing. He could be trolling me for all I know.

Are you psychic? Did you read his mind and notice the projection? Make guesses based on that?

It seems to me, as an observer, that you reacted to the words he used to communicate with you ... not only that, you determined projection and made guesses about the other poster based on those words.

Words, then, seem to have had a causal effect on you, yes?

a reply to: Gryphon66

Are you psychic? Did you read his mind and notice the projection? Make guesses based on that?

It seems to me, as an observer, that you reacted to the words he used to communicate with you ... not only that, you determined projection and made guesses about the other poster based on those words.

Words, then, seem to have had a causal effect on you, yes?

No. My understanding of the words, and not his writing of them, leads to whatever effect may necessarily follow.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gryphon66

Are you psychic? Did you read his mind and notice the projection? Make guesses based on that?

It seems to me, as an observer, that you reacted to the words he used to communicate with you ... not only that, you determined projection and made guesses about the other poster based on those words.

Words, then, seem to have had a causal effect on you, yes?

No. My understanding of the words, and not his writing of them, leads to whatever effect may necessarily follow.

And what caused your understanding?

The words?

a reply to: Gryphon66

And what caused your understanding?

The words?

My reading them.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gryphon66

And what caused your understanding?

The words?

My reading them.

So, the words themselves caused a reaction via your reading?

Correct?

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Im flattered.

Still not an answer to my question

Toodles then!

:-)

a reply to: Gryphon66

So, the words themselves caused a reaction via your reading?

Correct?

I read the words; the words didn't cause me to read them.

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

Still not an answer to my question

Toodles then!

:-)

I did answer.

Ta ta

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Gryphon66

So, the words themselves caused a reaction via your reading?

Correct?

I read the words; the words didn't caused me to read them.

No, of course not.

But the words, once entering your awareness by the act of reading, caused a reaction?

That is, you've read other words that didn't cause that reaction, correct?

a reply to: Gryphon66

Yeah, it's called comprehension, not a reaction.