Anti Vaxxer passes whooping cough onto her baby

This is what happens when misguided fools parrot other misguided fools.

Just because a thousand or even a million believe vaccines are evil, doesn't make them right..

Ms Avital, who owns a health beverage company, rejected the whooping cough vaccine she was offered in week 28 of her pregnancy believing she "didn't need this crap".

She described herself as a very healthy, organic and fit woman who had no complications during her pregnancy and no deficiencies.

"[But] even me, the bulletproof lady who has never been to a doctor, travelled the world and felt healthy got whooping cough," she said.

It's a shame that her wake up call was at the cost of her baby's health.

The newborn is now in intensive care and entering her fourth week of the disease.

"It's just so hard to watch this tiny little thing ... go from red to blue, sometime they go a bit black, and for a moment you think they are dead in your hands, they flop."

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I saw a meme that actually made me laugh. It said something like:

200 years ago no one was vaccinated
everyone ate organic non processed food
didnt drink chemical laced water
and lived to the ripe old age of died at childbirth.

sucks for the baby though

a reply to: Chadwickus

Talk about learning the hard way ay Chad, almost lost her baby following misguided others, reminds me of religion, but thats another matter.
I do not like vaccines myself, but my 4 yr, 13 yr and 17 yr old are all vacced. I think it is the fillers that are the worry.

Not a bad species to sort our own medicine this way though is it. Give the disease in small doses so the body works out a way to defeat it.
But was it meant to be......

a reply to: scubagravy

that;s a pull yourself up by your bootstraps immune system i can respect.

a reply to: Chadwickus

Fear monger much?

Your child's protection against the disease increases with each shot, so her risk of getting it will be at its lowest after she receives the fifth shot of the series, between 4 and 6 years of age. Even then she has a small chance of coming down with whooping cough, because the vaccine isn't 100 percent effective.

Seems a vaccine may not have been the answer.

The number of cases in the United States rose from about 1,000 in 1976 to almost 26,000 in 2005. (The number has declined somewhat since then.) Most of these infections were in babies younger than 6 months and children over age 7.

So even with vaccines not being questioned in that time era, the number still rose.
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It's a shame that her wake up call was at the cost of her baby's health.

There is literally nothing that can prove that her refusing the vaccination made any difference in any way.

I don't think vaccinations are a bad thing, I just think the for profit pharmaceutical industry has profits as first priority rather than your health., Just my opinion though.

I get it. I really do.

What I wonder is: Does she get it now?

a reply to: Chadwickus

Anti-vaxxers can't always rely on the herd immunity to protect their non-vaxxed children. She took a gamble with her child's health and life, and it's her child that's paying dearly for it.

originally posted by: Snarl
I get it. I really do.

What I wonder is: Does she get it now?

Huh...
In the article, she doesn't say "I screwed up."

I wouldn't call myself pro or anti, but vaccines are not the holy grail, and this woman is not the new poster child for vaccines. There are stories that also show the downside to vaccines. A guy I worked with ended up in the hospital after a flu shot with the worst case of the flu he had ever had. Previous to that shot, he hadn't been sick in years. And he's not the only one I know that has happened to. Coincidence? Would they have gotten the flu that year anyway? Possibly, but this story is no different. We don't know the vaccine would have spared her and her child. If she had taken the jab, the end result might have been the same.

Call people "misguided fools" all you want, but the science behind vaccines is far from perfected at this point. Nevertheless, that doesn't mean we throw out vaccines. They've done a lot of good. We just need to keep improving the science.

I remember having that when I was a kid... for some reason, what I remember the most was alot of pain!! I can't imagine a newborn having it, poor little thing!!!

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: Snarl
I get it. I really do.

What I wonder is: Does she get it now?

Huh...
In the article, she doesn't say "I screwed up."

I didn't see those words either.

a reply to: Chadwickus

I would normally agree you just picked a vaccine that doesn't actually work very well. Not only does the new pertusis vaccine not last very long it also isnt helping stop the spread of the disease.
www.nbcnews.com...

www.npr.org...

Kids with up to date tdap still getting sick. Not just in Colorado either.
fox13now.com...

a reply to: luthier

A pertussis vaccine during pregnancy transfers immunity to the fetus.

With a full protocol, the vaccine is effective at a rate of more than 95% in children.

a reply to: Phage

Along with any negative side effects

a reply to: Vector99
Antibodies have side effect? Like what?

a reply to: Phage

Thats not exactly true phage.

They are finding after the last booster in one year it goes down to 75 percent. After three or four it goes down to 34 percent.

The new tdap has some serious issues with waning immunity. I have kids who get the shot and even our doctor warned us.

a reply to: luthier

Yes. The immunity does wane.
So, does that mean there's no point?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Vector99
Antibodies have side effect? Like what?

Really?

Monoclonal antibodies (mAbs) are now established as targeted therapies for malignancies, transplant rejection, autoimmune and infectious diseases, as well as a range of new indications. However, administration of mAbs carries the risk of immune reactions such as acute anaphylaxis, serum sickness and the generation of antibodies. In addition, there are numerous adverse effects of mAbs that are related to their specific targets, including infections and cancer, autoimmune disease, and organ-specific adverse events such as cardiotoxicity. In March 2006, a life-threatening cytokine release syndrome occurred during a first-in-human study with TGN1412 (a CD28-specific superagonist mAb), resulting in a range of recommendations to improve the safety of initial human clinical studies with mAbs. Here, we review some of the adverse effects encountered with mAb therapies, and discuss advances in preclinical testing and antibody technology aimed at minimizing the risk of these events.

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a reply to: Phage

No it means they screwed up the new formula and hopefully fix it before more people get sick.

Like I said my kids have it.

Our Dr warned us that the new tdap does not protect our teenager.

It's hardly 95 percent effective. Sure if you go face value from the CDC website. Unfortunately the actual statistics nationally don't show this. 20-40k cases most of which are vaccinated children on the schedule.

a reply to: Vector99
Um. The pertussis vaccine causes a person to produce antibodies against pertussis. It is not an injection of monoclonal antibodies.