The Song of Solomon is NOT: Beyonce and Jay Z and the promotion of mating machines

This is my first time hearing of or listening to this woman's song songs and how it is used as an Anti- definition: en.wikipedia.org...

To the song of Somonon easily defined: en.wikipedia.org...

The Song of Songs, also known as the Song of Solomon, the Canticle of Canticles, or simply Canticles (Hebrew: שִׁיר הַשִּׁירִים Šîr HašŠîrîm ; Greek: ᾎσμα ᾈσμάτων ā̂isma āismátōn, both meaning "song of songs"), is one of the megillot (scrolls) of the Ketuvim (the "Writings", the last section of the Tanakh or Hebrew Bible), and the fifth of the "wisdom" books of the Christian Old Testament.[1] Scripturally, the Song of Songs is unique in its celebration of sexual love.[2] It gives "the voices of two lovers, praising each other, yearning for each other, proffering invitations to enjoy".[3] The two are in harmony, each desiring the other and rejoicing in sexual intimacy; the women (or "daughters") of Jerusalem form a chorus to the lovers, functioning as an audience whose participation in the lovers' erotic encounters facilitates the participation of the reader.[4] In modern Judaism, the Song is read on the Sabbath during the Passover, which marks the beginning of the grain harvest as well as commemorating the Exodus from Egypt. Jewish tradition reads it as an allegory of the relationship between God and Israel.[5] Christian tradition, in addition to appreciating the literal meaning of a romantic song between man and woman, has read the poem as an allegory of Christ (the bridegroom) and his Church (the bride).[6]

Drunk in love:

The man describes his beloved: Her hair is like a flock of goats, her teeth like shorn ewes, and so on from face to breasts. Place-names feature heavily: her neck is like the Tower of David, her smell like the scent of Lebanon. He hastens to summon his beloved, saying that he is ravished by even a single glance. The section becomes a "garden poem", in which he describes her as a "locked garden" (usually taken to mean that she is chaste). The woman invites the man to enter the garden and taste the fruits. The man accepts the invitation, and a third party tells them to eat, drink, "and be drunk with love".[11]

Explained:

Lyrics:


The people praise the beauty of the woman. The images are the same as those used elsewhere in the poem, but with an unusually dense use of place-names, e.g., pools of Hebron, gate of Bath-rabbim, tower of Damascus, etc. The man states his intention to enjoy the fruits of the woman's garden. The woman invites him to a tryst in the fields. She once more warns the daughters of Jerusalem against waking love until it is ready.

The woman compares love to death and sheol: love is as relentless and jealous as these two, and cannot be quenched by any force. She summons her lover, using the language used before: he should come "like a gazelle or a young stag upon the mountain of spices".[11]

The famed first and second century rabbi Akiva ben Joseph (aka Rabbi Akiba) forbade the use of the Song of Songs in popular celebrations. He reportedly said, "He who sings the Song of Songs in wine taverns, treating it as if it were a vulgar song, forfeits his share in the world to come".[25] However, Rabbi Akiba famously defended the canonicity of the Song of Songs, reportedly saying when the question came up of whether it should be considered a defiling work, "God forbid! [...] For all of eternity in its entirety is not as worthy as the day on which Song of Songs was given to Israel, for all the Writings are holy, but Song of Songs is the Holy of Holies."[26]

*I'm not being racist, I'm just old and white. lol. I have only known maybe 5 black people in my life, I'm wayyy out of the loop of some of this stuff, but not all. I get to it, slowly and eventually.

Why even have lyrics like this???? Rocks, steady? omgee until she loses a baby? Is this a joke video? if so, I've been punked LOL

originally posted by: dianashay

Why even have lyrics like this????

My assumption is that the songwriter hopes some people would like the not-so-subtle sexual innuendo (heck, it's not innuendo at all, but straight-out description of sexual acts!), and those people would the buy the song -- which would put money in the pocket of the songwriter. So the purpose is (mostly) to make money.

Rocks, steady? omgee until she loses a baby? Is this a joke video? if so, I've been punked LOL

If you are talking about the lyrics to "Rocket" that were in your YouTube link, can you please point out where the song lyrics mention (or implies) "until she loses a baby"?

a reply to: dianashay
I guess you are right. Maybe it is our age. I see nothing of value and zero talent in these videos.

They are simply part of the conditioning process. My question is, what parent allows their hard earned money, to used to push this message into the minds of their children?

a reply to: dianashay

Hummm..maybe you should include her video "partition" maybe some need to scour that video over and over and over to find something relating to Solomon

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

The entire video refers to a man being invited to abort his own (possible?) child from her womb, long after the act and longer into it's conception. This is liklely done through he act of fisting. It is all in assumption that they are doing themselves (and the unborn) a favor. What you see is a pretty version of what has gone on for centuries. Are you that naive? She invites him to wait and stay by him while she bleeds excessively. She admits she is a whorebag, so this is Maury in your bedroom. Rock it in blood, bathe in blood. Planned Parenthood agenda all the way. Rock a bye baby it, until the pulse goes.

The requests she gives (aftereffect) are morbid and I wouldn't even want to put those things in writing.

'FK me until you kill it, and if that doesn't work the 'rocket' is an ancient herb (of the violet flower weed, aka the shrinking violet) also given to women. It also goes on to describe that if you made the kid (from un-LOVE) you should stick around to enjoy the act of killing it.

*How sad is that? Better to have some man kill a tiny baby in thrill than to have a bastard child who won't take care of 'it'? Not always.
sometimes gestation is way longer. and the babes are aborted much larger. Comfortable in their own skin? Uhhh wtff? If a couple is really a good F together then they will F again. Omfgg it never ends. *echo*

For every beat you hear of this tune, an unborn child is tossed upon the ground.



I don't know or understand how or why this is a love song? This is death-porn/snuff, not music. This is not a song, this is a mockery of the intentionally-corrupt people that eat this up. Those are the ones in dire situations, sad situations, horrible conditions of poverty.

When you actually 'see' what is going on with ALL of your senses, you won't be so influenced to assume bad is good vs bad is good.

Another wake-up call to men to keep your women and your children.

Keep on f*kn is the point. Keep on fK'n and aborting.

a reply to: chrismarco

Solomon is mentioned and explained in similarity to the topic within the first lines.

If you don't understand that, then you just don't.

originally posted by: dianashay
a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

The entire video refers to a man being invited to abort his own (possible?) child from her womb, long after the act and longer into it's conception. This is liklely done through he act of fisting. It is all in assumption that they are doing themselves (and the unborn) a favor. What you see is a pretty version of what has gone on for centuries. Are you that naive? She invites him to wait and stay by him while she bleeds excessively. She admits she is a whorebag, so this is Maury in your bedroom.

Are we still talking about the Beyoncé song "Rocket"? If so, I'm not sure where you are getting the abortion and fisting stuff from.

Below are the lyrics to the song. The song is not really my cup of tea, but I'm not getting the meaning you are getting. To me the song seems to be a not-at-all-subtle innuendo about sexual acts and female orgasms -- and possibly male and female ejaculation (and not always internal ejaculation). The female orgasm is the waterfall she sings about.

I really can't fathom where you are getting the "aborting a fetus" stuff from. Maybe you can point out some of those lyrics?

Let me sit this a** on you
Show you how I feel
Let me take this off
Will you watch me
Yes mass appeal
Don't take your eyes
Don't take your eyes off it
Watch it, babe
If you like
You can touch me baby
Do you
Do you wanna touch me baby
Grab ahold, don't let go
Let me know
That you
Ready

I just wanna show you now
Slow it down
Go around
You rock hard
I rock steady

And rock right up to the
Side of my mountain
Climb until you reach my peak babe, the peak, the peak
And reach right into the bottom of my fountain
I wanna play in your deep baby, the deep baby, the deep
Then dip me under where you can feel my river flowing flow
Hold me 'til I scream for air to breathe
Don't wash me over until my well runs dry
Send all your sins all over me babe, me

Rock it 'til waterfalls
Rock it 'til waterfalls
Rock it 'til waterfalls
Bathe in these waterfalls

I do it like it's my profession
I gotta make a confession
I'm proud of all this bass
Lemme put it in your face
By the way
If you need a personal trainer or a therapist
I can be a piece of sunshine, inner peace, entertainer
Anything else that you may read between the lines
You and I create
Rockets and waterfalls

So rock right up to
The side of my mountain
Climb until you reach my peak babe, the peak, the peak
And reach right into the bottom of my fountain
I wanna play in your deep baby, your deep baby, the deep
Then dip me under where you can feel my river flowing flow
Hold me 'til I scream for air to breathe
And wash me over until my well runs dry
Send all your sins all over me babe, me

Hard rock steady rock hard rock steady
Rock hard rock steady rock hard rock steady
Don't you know that I give you
The loving if you need it
I give you my word
You can believe it
Your love feels like
All four seasons growing inside me
Life has a reason
Swimming
My love, your love lifting
Higher harder
Got me screaming to the lord, boy
Kiss me
Pray we don't overflow
Baby I know you can feel it pulse
Keeping the peak of my waterfall
Rock it baby, rock it baby 'til the water falls down
Damn

I can't help but love the way we make love
Daddy, daddy
Ooh child, ooh now
Yes lord
Damn baby
Driving me cray
Cray
You ain't right for doing it to me like that daddy
Even though I've been a bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad girl
Tell me what you're gonna do about that
Punish me
Please
Punish me please
Daddy what you're going to do with all of this a**
All up in your face
Yeah, hell yeah
Love me so deep
Ooh my #'s so good it ain't even right
I know I'm right
Hell yeah you the sh**
That's why you're my equivalent
So sexy

We're so much more than pointless fixtures
Instagram pictures
Cause soon boy, gonna rock that ching-ching-ching
Baby boomers
Sick little trends, tryna fit in
Home is where the heart is
Goddamnit I'm comfortable in my skin
And you're
Comfortable in my skin
You look so comfortable in my skin
Rockets and waterfalls

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

Are you a man SG? If so then that explains how you question my (personal) analysis of that particular song. lol

originally posted by: dianashay
a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

Are you a man SG? If so then that explains how you question my (personal) analysis of that particular song. lol

Yes, I'm a man.

As I mentioned, could you please point out the specific lyrics that you say are about the man helping her abort an unborn child? That might help me understand where you are coming from.

Like I said, it seems to be about sex, female orgasms, and (possibly) ejaculations. I looked around a bit online, and that seems to be the prevailing thoughts about the song, even from the songwriters themselves (Justin Timberlake and Beyoncé). Basically it's about the woman wanting the man to send her into a crescendo of orgasms.

originally posted by: dianashay
a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

Are you a man SG? If so then that explains how you question my (personal) analysis of that particular song. lol

I just looked at the lyrics posted by Soylent, and I'm a woman. I couldn't find anything there about aborting a child, or anything even close to that. And I looked thoroughly.
I'm in agreement with Soylent, it's very sexual.

a reply to: snowspirit

Have you ever had children Snow? If not, no matter, I just don't get that you don't get it. lol


edit: Did you 'see' the lyrics or hear/see the official video? Big difference.

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People


Well, I guess you see what you want to see.

That is the point of the song, you see light *fun fun* and others see the darkness. It is bedtime now so I hope to hear from
you again in the morning.

originally posted by: dianashay
a reply to: Soylent Green Is People


Well, I guess you see what you want to see.

That is the point of the song, you see light *fun fun* and others see the darkness. It is bedtime now so I hope to hear from
you again in the morning.

You still haven't pointed out the darkness in the lyrics that I posted. You may as well say the song is all about baking cookies if you aren't going to back up what you think the song means by showing me the lyrics that make you think what you think.

The songwriters (Justin Timberlake and Beyonce among them) say the song is about female sensuality and sexuality, espescially during sexual intercourse. That seems to make sense, reading the lyrics.

Please explicitly explain to me (by referencing the lyrics) the dark message that you are saying the song is about.

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People



The song either refreshes you in innocence or it bejewels you in sin. If you see not evil, do no evil then don't worry about ANY commentary, including mine that may influence a wasted decision on useless media opinions.


Up to you.

originally posted by: dianashay
a reply to: Soylent Green Is People



The song either refreshes you in innocence or it bejewels you in sin. If you see not evil, do no evil then don't worry about ANY commentary, including mine that may influence a wasted decision on useless media opinions.


Up to you.

This is a discussion board, and I'm just going along with the discussion.

You say the song is about a woman wanting a man to intentionally abort an unborn fetus inside of the woman, and I truly want to know why it is that you think that. That's the point of discussion boards.

It should be simple enough to quote a few lines of the lyrics I posted that supports your interpretation of the song.

This is a discussion board, and I'm just going along with the discussion. You say the song is about a woman wanting a man to intentionally abort an unborn fetus inside of the woman, and I truly want to know why it is that you think that. That's the point of discussion boards.

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

Music is art, art imitates life, or even visa versa. What the song means to you is what you hear and see. What I see and hear (negative as it is to my reality) seems to be different.

A mere few minutes song doesn't seem to effect others in the same mind-frame I have. I will chalk it up to one of my many learning moments, especially since I am hardly an expert because I only heard these songs today.

I'm kinda disappointed in myself for diving into such a subject out of my own anxiety. Again, I've only recently heard the so-called music of these famous/infamous (??) people and it hurt to eat afterwards. I am still overcoming nauseousness. I thank the Lord I was done having children 30-+years ago, Just having that horrid vibration/noise provoke illness. What I do know is that no one who sang such garbage and filth brings that home with them, nor would they allow their own children listen to it.

originally posted by: dianashay
a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

Well, I guess you see what you want to see.

That is the point of the song, you see light *fun fun* and others see the darkness. It is bedtime now so I hope to hear from
you again in the morning.

I'm guessing that you misheard the lyrics and thought the song was about something which it isn't, then when SG posted the actual lyrics you didn't want to come out and say something like "ooohhh so that's what the lyrics actually are, my bad."

I think this is why you are refusing to point out where in the song you are seeing the abortion reference.

But yeah, it's obviously (to me) about sex and female orgasms, there is nothing to do with abortion or pregnancy in the song.

a reply to: dianashay

Q: What did the Alpha Omega say to the Bride of Christ?
A: GAG MAGOG!

Scripture is there to be interpreted according to each and everyone of us as long as it is not to the detriment of the positive progress of mankind and humanity. If someone thinks the Song of Solomon is fruity, let them think it. Where's the harm? It shows they are thinking about living rather than gathering dust. "Tradition' drags us backwards, it doesn't move us forwards. It's uncompromising, it's inflexible, it's the antithesis of what time is all about and that is change which should always be for the better.

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People

But yeah, it's obviously (to me) about sex and female orgasms, there is nothing to do with abortion or pregnancy in the song. Text

Sorry about the delay, have been quite ill and not home much.

will try and try hard to prove my point if I can (regarding my opinion of the lyrics) as soon as possible.

*on another note, there was a news article perhaps a month ago about a woman that found her abortion to be an 'enjoyable' experience.

Perhaps that is what set me off.

a reply to: dianashay


k, I found some info on my trip back from the hosp.

This is the strangest commentary (entertainment program that I obviously don't get on my tv channels)

www.infowars.com... e-had-appeared-in-front-of-a-huge-abortion-sign/
can anyone explain this to me? It is the oddest commentary I've ever seen.

Wanted to add this Mark Dice Vid I just found www.youtube.com... made me wonder if in order to join such a group, you must sacrifice one of your children. This reminds me of the rumors about her not even being pregnant and have a fake baby-bump in which later in the song Heartbeat she describes the loss of her 'would be' first child before Blue Ivey. Strange (to me) that some of the lyrics overlap with Rocket lyrics. I don't don't doubt that her husband was hand picked for her if he loves her at all....he married her to control her then grew to love her.

I don't think she is evil at all. I'm sure she is a kind and lovely person. Maybe to not become broke, homeless and discredited by some info/dirt 'they' have on her and JZ. No doubt they have no privacy even when alone together. OR, her being pregnant at that time was just not under approval by 'their' agenda. not to mention she has been forced / conditioned to agree to be a money-maker, youth corruption machine.
In this video she mentions of her decision to be an independent entertainer, but as we know that didn't last long before she was bought and paid for---owned.

I just somehow feel bad for her, very bad and sad for her.

I hope and wish I am wrong and her miscarriage was just that, an issue of a natural human malfunctioning and God.

I grow more fondness towards her with every video I see. As I said, I only heard of her a month or so ago so I will let this go and only think
positive from now on.

Thank you all who contributed in comments and for your patience in my bout of paranoia.



*edit: am sorry the videos don't work, I am heavily medicated and have to get back to the hospital in 10 mins, seems I have forgotten how to load youtube properly.