Alabama Cheif Justice Effectly Bans Same-Sex Marriage in the State

Why don't same-sex couples just come up with their own wedding ceremony, like many other groups have done around the world, and let the religious "marriage" debate die?

originally posted by: Konduit
Why don't same-sex couples just come up with their own wedding ceremony, like many other groups have done around the world, and let the religious "marriage" debate die?

Why can't the religious just shut up? And let it die.

Of course, only those who think they are special.

There are many religious people who support equality. Oh, and guess what, many LGBT are religious.

originally posted by: Annee
This idiot again?

Hard to believe he got re-elected.

I hope he gets slapped with a 2 million dollar fine.

not really. the state pays his salary. the people that didn't elect him shouldn't have to pay for his ignorance. hopefully he just gets fired for being too stupid.

originally posted by: vjr1113

originally posted by: Annee
This idiot again?

Hard to believe he got re-elected.

I hope he gets slapped with a 2 million dollar fine.

not really. the state pays his salary. the people that didn't elect him shouldn't have to pay for his ignorance. hopefully he just gets fired for being too stupid.

He was removed once by legal decision.

I think it's time to do it again.

Having your own religion is a basic human right.

I just wish people would leave theirs at home though and not take it into the world of work and especially government.

I doubt whatever god someone follows really gives a damn about whether they have screwed with someone else's happiness and I would also be fed up with the time and money wasted on this. Consenting adults should be free to marry any other consenting adults, regardless of what sex, race and religion they are.

There are real problems that need dealing with and only 24 hours in each day to play with.

originally posted by: Konduit
Why don't same-sex couples just come up with their own wedding ceremony, like many other groups have done around the world, and let the religious "marriage" debate die?

you mean the religious concept of men owning their wives like cattle. yea that's a step in the right direction. marriage can give people certain financial benefits, excluding x minority is completely backwards.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Konduit
Why don't same-sex couples just come up with their own wedding ceremony, like many other groups have done around the world, and let the religious "marriage" debate die?

Why can't the religious just shut up? And let it die.

Of course, only those who think they are special.

There are many religious people who support equality. Oh, and guess what, many LGBT are religious.

I heard Libya recently banned freedom of religion, maybe we should move there?

I know many LGBT are members of various religions, but I don't understand why they would perform Christian ceremonies when the religion explicitly condemns homosexuality.

It's like Jews supporting the German National Socialist Party.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
Consenting adults should be free to marry any other consenting adults, regardless of what sex, race and religion they are.

I think the scale has tipped forward and there's no going back. Most people in America (according to polls) support equality across the board. Even religious people.

It's just the extreme fundamentalist who won't let it go.

They really believe accepting homosexuality is a sign of the end times and that it's their duty to God to stop it.

But, that's their problem and they've lost.

a reply to: Annee

Yeah, I know what you mean.

Fingers crossed it won't be long before nutters like these are replaced with people who don't feel the need to dictate how others live their lives.

originally posted by: Konduit

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Konduit
Why don't same-sex couples just come up with their own wedding ceremony, like many other groups have done around the world, and let the religious "marriage" debate die?

Why can't the religious just shut up? And let it die.

Of course, only those who think they are special.

There are many religious people who support equality. Oh, and guess what, many LGBT are religious.

I heard Libya recently banned freedom of religion, maybe we should move there?

I know many LGBT are members of various religions, but I don't understand why they would perform Christian ceremonies when the religion explicitly condemns homosexuality.

It's like Jews supporting the German National Socialist Party.

Libya is irrelevant.

Legal Marriage is a government contract that has zero to do with religion.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: Annee

Yeah, I know what you mean.

Fingers crossed it won't be long before nutters like these are replaced with people who don't feel the need to dictate how others live their lives.

America is a secular Democratic Republic.

The fundamentalists can bitch all they want, but they can't rule by God.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Konduit

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Konduit
Why don't same-sex couples just come up with their own wedding ceremony, like many other groups have done around the world, and let the religious "marriage" debate die?

Why can't the religious just shut up? And let it die.

Of course, only those who think they are special.

There are many religious people who support equality. Oh, and guess what, many LGBT are religious.

I heard Libya recently banned freedom of religion, maybe we should move there?

I know many LGBT are members of various religions, but I don't understand why they would perform Christian ceremonies when the religion explicitly condemns homosexuality.

It's like Jews supporting the German National Socialist Party.

Libya is irrelevant.

Legal Marriage is a government contract that has zero to do with religion.

You want the religious people to just shut up, so I thought a place that banned freedom of religion might suit your fancy.

Just to clarify my stance, I believe anyone should be able to enter a legally binding "marriage" or union with another individual, no matter what your color, creed or sexual orientation.

But I think the religious folks like this judge get so uppity about gay marriage because they use ceremonies that involve religious iconography like churches, crosses etc. and they consider it to be a "blasphemy".

So I agree... take religion out of the equation on both sides and it probably wouldn't be a problem.

originally posted by: Konduit

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Konduit

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Konduit
Why don't same-sex couples just come up with their own wedding ceremony, like many other groups have done around the world, and let the religious "marriage" debate die?

Why can't the religious just shut up? And let it die.

Of course, only those who think they are special.

There are many religious people who support equality. Oh, and guess what, many LGBT are religious.

I heard Libya recently banned freedom of religion, maybe we should move there?

I know many LGBT are members of various religions, but I don't understand why they would perform Christian ceremonies when the religion explicitly condemns homosexuality.

It's like Jews supporting the German National Socialist Party.

Libya is irrelevant.

Legal Marriage is a government contract that has zero to do with religion.

You want the religious people to just shut up, so I thought a place that banned freedom of religion might suit your fancy.

You wanted gays to give it up to the religious.

See how it sounds?

Wonder if the areas local court can overturn it? Similar to:

A federal appeals court in California on Tuesday became the latest to declare a constitutional right for gays to marry, overturning prohibitions in Idaho and Nevada.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit in San Francisco also has jurisdiction in three other states with marriage bans — Alaska, Arizona and Montana — and those bans will be unlikely to survive.

Source

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Bound to happen.

Little thing called the 10th Amendment. And marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution anywhere.
Whice under the 10th means it falls to the States (Or the individual) to regulate.

SCOTUS stepped in it on this one. Even some of judges brought that up in their descents.

The only TRUE way to get this settled would be an amendment, which would leave not wiggle room. But that wont happen because both sides would fear the out come of that.

The only reason it passed was that the two judge that should of recused themselves, didn't. Nothing illegal about it, but they knew it probably would not if they did.

We will probably see this go back as a states right issue.

originally posted by: Konduit
So I agree... take religion out of the equation on both sides and it probably wouldn't be a problem.

Religion has never been part of the equation. To be legally married you need to head to your local town hall or county office and obtain a marriage license. You could get married a thousand times in a religious institution and it affords you no legal protections or benefits. You need a state sanctioned license.

originally posted by: dismanrc
And marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution anywhere.

You obviously do not understand how the Constitution functions.

a reply to: dismanrc

States don't have a right to discriminate. Or do you think the South should be able to re-instate Jim Crow laws as well?

Equal treatment under the laws applies to EVERYONE.

a reply to: dismanrc

Actually the matter is already settled. This Alabama judge is in for a rude awakening and you are in for a disappointment.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Really, religion has never been a part of the equation? Then why have all these fundies been up in arms over same-sex marriage for decades? Why do politicians vow to ban same-sex marriages? What is the underlying premise for their actions?

Obviously when it comes to marriage and politics, religion is a huge part of the equation.