Islamic World Conquest

originally posted by: Nikola014
If you going to be an islamophobe, at least use valid arguments and not just some silly pictures.

Islam is about as extreme and irrational as one can get...

The term ‘Islamophobia’ is merely a political tool to shut people up.

Islamophobia - the irrational fear of being beheaded. If you are not Islamophobic, then you are doomed to be one of their victims. There is a lot to fear from Islam. A "phobia" is an "IRRATIONAL FEAR". Fearing a para-military cult disguised as a religion is NOT irrational.
It is COMPLETELY RATIONAL!!!

Islamophobia Is a Myth

Don't talk to me about Islamophobia! Let me talk to you about 'freespeechophobia'; the absolute meltdown that some people have when they hear someone say something that has not been approved of by the political censors.

Islamophobia: Irrational Phobia or Rational Fear?

I want to tackle the illusion of “Islamophobia” though, for “phobia” means to hold an irrational fear of something. There are very few concerns about Islam that are expressed from irrationality. Most fears regarding Islam are entirely rational and legitimate – and the invention of this new lexicon “Islamophobia” – is largely the latest attempt to sideline debate and deflect blame from Islam for what its teachings, and consequently, followers have done and are doing.

“Islamophobia” does not exist – Fearing Islam is quite rational

...the word ‘Islamophobia’ has been used as a political weapon rather than as an honest way of communicating an idea. The main problem arises from the fact that by combining the words ‘Islam’ and ‘phobia’ the resulting term is itself contradictory given current usage. It ignores rational fears that people may have and in the best Stalinist tradition labels those with such fears as being mentally ill.

This article will argue that if the world ‘phobia’ is to be used in combination with Islam then it is more appropriate for describing the people who currently wield the term rather than those who are victimised by such people. Islamophobia should therefore be defined as ‘the irrational fear of questioning Islam’.

Islamophobia – The Irrational Fear of Questioning Islam

originally posted by: flyingfish
a reply to: amicktd

the radical left and its Islamist allies

LOL!
Try this link:
Link

Thanks for another source and sorry wasn't trying to kill the thread just don't like biased reporting. I'll look into it and get back to you if I have anything further to add.

originally posted by: flyingfish
Trinidad &Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%
Guyana -- Muslim 10%
Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Albania -- Muslim 70%

What a absolutly stupid and ignorant post. Conflicts in Trinidad Tobago and Guyana are ETHNIC based and not RELIGIOUS. Google it for christ sake. Bosnia ? Lol. Do you even know where Bosnia is ? Have you ever heard about Yugoslavia ? Conflicts in Yougoslavia were between ETHNIC groups. You had muslims/Bosniaks fighting Serbs and Croats. Serbs/christians were fighting Croats/christians aswell. Croats/christians fought alongside Bosniaks/muslims against Serbs/christians. Google it before you post such crap. Albania ? ALBANIA ? Albania was socialist/communist state untill 1992. Do you know how they treat religion in a communist regime ? I wonder what else is wrong in your post when by the first look i found 4 major #ups. But no no. You copy/pasted this post because it looks pretty and it alligns with your agenda. You dont care whats right or wrong.

a reply to: flyingfish


from your linked snippet

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Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

the core component which drives Islam is the need to freely exercise Jihad...
they use the Legal/Political/Economic/Military & the Social Media, as a means of promoting (propaganda-izing) their Muslim World-view on a captive population

Islam is a means to practice-&-execute all forms of Jihad on all non-Muslims

First of all Islam is no more a single religious organization than Christianity. It has no leader, is has no plan. its various factions do not even get along with each other. And as somebody who spent time in many Islamic nations I can tell you that they are just regular everyday people who happen to be more polite and friendly than what must people would be used to. It is funny that the same tired arguments that used against Islam were used against Catholics at one time. Answer to the Pope, can not be loyal to America blah blah blah. Ignore the thousands of Muslims who have for and given their lives for this country, ignore the fact that the first nation recognize the US and holds our longest treaty with is Morocco, ignore the fact that your more likely to be killed by a shark than a Muslim in America.

Hell, ISIS has done a number on you people. It is kind of sad how easy people give American values out of fear.

a reply to: ErrorErrorError
Get out of here with this crap, the thread is not about me or any alleged agenda! It's all ignorant, I have no idea how the stats were acquired or if there accurate, hence the point of the thread.
Now start over and post the links to your assertions!

originally posted by: Ozsheeple
a reply to: flyingfish

So considering how many Christians kill people in America we should ban all of them as well?

a reply to: Murgatroid

I can't believe I just stared a Murgatroid post! It's seems we can agree on some things..

originally posted by: St Udio
a reply to: flyingfish


from your linked snippet ....
""Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components. ""

the core component which drives Islam is the need to freely exercise Jihad...
they use the Legal/Political/Economic/Military & the Social Media, as a means of promoting (propaganda-izing) their Muslim World-view on a captive population

Islam is a means to practice-&-execute all forms of Jihad on all non-Muslims



The essence of Islam is Jihad... the forced conversion or submission to Islam OF all non-Muslims
=== Is that Peaceful or what?
there is no way to confuse Jihad as a Peaceful exercise of religion...

Jihad is conflict, aggression, war at all levels and is in-the-face-of Democracy and western civilization


the only recourse is to engage in Jihad against Islamic Jihad=== that was one time called the Crusades when the terrorized Christian community of Nations finally sought to overthrow the slave-master Muslims after hundreds of years of terror/torment/inhumane treatment by Muslim Sultans/Warlords/Caliphs







as for : a reply to: MrSpad


its not about individuals.... the Islamic control over populations is more like BORG mind.... Jihad is each man's responsibility for the betterment of the group (Islam)... those who are timid on their exercise of Jihad are eventually '[brought on the carpet by the enforcement Arm of Sharia or maybe even scolded by the local Imam
or that timid Jihadi is made to re-educated themselves to 'get with the program' & be ready to don a suicide vest from what I have heard from others
Jihad and promoting the spread of Islam/Sharia/Jihad is every members earthly FIRST DUTY

a reply to: St Udio
Yes yes, I saw that too. Agreed
It goes on to say religion is just a "beard."

a reply to: St Udio

Islam is much more complex than you are suggesting. Islam does not exist solely for the prosecution of jihad. It is also not organized in a centralized fashion that is amenable to the sort of strategy outlined in the OP. This Islamophobic nonsense is just a new flavor of Anti-Semitism: attributing the same nefarious covert manipulation to the Jews' Semitic cousins as to the Jews themselves.

a reply to: MrSpad

And as somebody who spent time in many Islamic nations I can tell you that they are just regular everyday people who happen to be more polite and friendly than what must people would be used to.

That's my exact experience as well.

a reply to: flyingfish

I found more in this PDF..

The "location" on your profile states: Earth.

I get the impression based on what you posted in this thread (on the first page) that you have never travelled the world and have never immersed yourself in different cultures. I get the impression that you are globally uncultured and rely strictly on the internet to form your world view. I get the impression (could be wrong) that you are one of those souls who will live and die without ever truly seeing this Blue Pearl with your own eyes. Tragic if true on so many levels.

From the OP:

There was one thread done here, but it seems the whole thread was back and forth tag on who's the bigot and not much on the validity of the stats.

If you seek "validity" concerning the stats - one must travel and experience the world for themselves to discern whether it is valid or not.

Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik were also described as friendly regular everyday people...

Things are never what they appear to be.

This is why "Taqiyya" is such a powerful weapon.

Judy Miller, the landlord, said she rented the apartment to Farook six months ago. “They just seemed like they were very happy,” she said. ” … He seemed so nice, and he seemed sincere...”

newyork.cbslocal.com...

Syed Rizwan Farook seemed happy, quiet and devoutly religious... “He seemed very sincere and very gentle,” Miller said. “He truly was a gentle person.”

www.washingtonpost.com...

Falsehoods told to prevent the denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned in the Qur'an and Sunna, including lying under oath in testimony before a court, deceiving by making distorted statements to the media such as the claim that Islam is a “religion of peace”.

www.islam-watch.org...

Has it never once occurred to Muslims that anyone that teaches it's OK to lie to the 'infidels' just MIGHT also be lying to them as well?

It is impossible to understand Islam and Muslims by listening to their protestations against terror and their proclamations of patriotism for America. Usually, it is wise and fair to give people the benefit of the doubt but when it comes to national safety and the future of America, we had better look twice, even thrice at Muslim patriotism. Why? Because Islam permits lying! It is called “Al-taqiyya.”

Muslims lie when it is in their interest to do so and “Allah” will not hold them accountable for lying when it is beneficial to the cause of Islam. They can lie without any guilt or fear of accountability or retribution. A lie in the defense of Islam is approved even applauded in their “holy” books.

www.muslimfact.com...

"The root word "taqiyya" means to protect against or conceal. As you might gather from the quotes above, the principle of al-Taqiyya is the Islamic justification for lying and deceiving. Al-Taqiyya is drawn explicitly from the words of Muhammad, and from the examples he and his successors set. The Qur'an and other Islamic books condone lying..."

www.provethebible.net...

a reply to: Murgatroid

Whether or not you like the Constitution, in the United States you actually have to commit a crime to be tried and found guilty.

a reply to: Murgatroid

Whether or not you like the Constitution, in the United States you actually have to commit a crime to be tried and found guilty.

a reply to: Involutionist

My world travels have nothing to do with the questions I have in the OP. Traveling the world just to see if the stats are true is a stupid idea..

originally posted by: flyingfish
a reply to: Involutionist

My world travels have nothing to do with the questions I have in the OP. Traveling the world just to see if the stats are true is a stupid idea..

So, still no evidence that the numbers you provided are correct ?

a reply to: gosseyn

Are you serious?! What do you think this thread is about?
Quit trolling me and read the OP!

a reply to: flyingfish

My world travels have nothing to do with the questions I have in the OP.

Perhaps that is true that it has nothing to do with the questions centred around ignorance in the OP. However, world travels has a lot to do with the answers you seek. Your questions can be verified. I will be back later (stepping out to eat dinner) to elaborate. In the mean time contemplate: Validate vs Verify since that is the premise of the OP.

Validate comes from the Latin validus, meaning strong.

Verify comes from veritus, meaning true.

We often say that an argument founded on strong principles is valid.

Because verification necessarily involves validation, there may be some flexibility about what you define as valid. The purpose of validation is usually to provide quick feedback about what might be wrong, whereas the purpose of verification is to make sure it's right.

english.stackexchange.com...

Traveling the world just to see if the stats are true is a stupid idea..

So is relying on PDF and website links...

However, I encourage you to travel for more worldly reasons than what you believe I suggested. Travel is one of few things we can purchase in life that actually makes us richer.

You may come to realize how ignorant your OP is by doing so...