Trump Tells Rand Paul to 'Just Go Quietly Home'

a reply to: Chrisfishenstein



Hey it's ok if Rand doesn't win

I like Carson and Fiorina and walker too! You know real conservatives

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: Chrisfishenstein



Hey it's ok if Rand doesn't win

I like Carson and Fiorina and walker too! You know real conservatives

Yep Walker is a conservative......hahaha

Boy oh boy it's no wonder our politicians are who they are.....You keep believing those internet pages you open for each candidate buddy!

Trump 2016

Cause I just don't give a snip...

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: greencmp

originally posted by: olaru12
Perhaps it is just political theater with Trump as the director/producer/and leading man.

If this is ever revealed...some people are going to feel chumped out, big time and bring down the GOP, leaving room for a T party to take it's place....

I think both socialist parties are performing public seppuku.

There is a viable alternative in Gary North.

Both parties aren't socialist...They're a crony Capitalist Oligarchy allied to forces we can't even imagine.

I have a hard time with Gary North's theocracy agenda and revisionist history approach to politcs.

Theocracy agenda, of what do you speak?

If you look closely at each party, they both have nearly identical records for expanding state power and enacting protectionism, welfare (corporate or other organizations and individuals), and social engineering programs nationwide.

Collectively, these programs and policies amount to socialism.

Revisionist history?

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Sound like a conservative:

1. His soft/superficial opposition to Common Core.

We can see that by what Common Core legislation Walker did support during this year’s legislative session. It would have merely had a commission review Common Core and suggest changes to state Superintendent Tony Evers, a Democrat who signed Wisconsin into Common Core with the stroke of his pen months before Common Core was even published. Come to think of it, him signing Common Core before the public could see what was in it—that would qualify as Wisconsin having “standards set by people in Wisconsin.” Right? So nothing needs to change to meet Walker’s criteria. But some people might believe things had changed. How convenient.

2. He supported citizenship for illegals before he was against it.

“This is not a small thing that Scott Walker just did,” says Frank Sharry of America’s Voice, a group that advocates for immigrants and now is harshly critical of Walker after welcoming his rhetoric just two years ago.

“Now that Scott Walker is on the big stage, he has made it clear he is going to pander to the nativist right at the expense of being able to compete for Latino voters in the general election,” Sharry said. “OK, he’s made his choice. But he’s going to have to live with it, and his party is going to have to live with it.”

3. He supported Right-to-Work legislation when he ran for office and recently signed it into law. But in between those two events, he attempted to strong-arm the GOP-controlled state legislature into dropping it.

Speaking to the GOP members on Wednesday, Walker restated previous comments that the measure would only be a distraction from more important issues. “We’ve got a lot of big reforms to act on…we’ve got a lot of issues with entitlement reform and tax reform and other reforms we’ve talked about…a lot of things to do in both the Legislative session and the budget…and I just have the concern that sorts of issues, particularly early on, might distract from that work,” Walker said.

4. He issued an emergency order bypassing the legislature in order to implement ObamaCare, only to rescind it after pressure from conservative activists.

Last month, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker angered his supporters by signing an emergency rule to implement ObamaCare in the state. After the harsh public outcry, however, Walker has now withdrawn the emergency rule.

Originally, the Governor sought to implement ObamaCare in his state by way of Assembly Bill 210, which was sponsored by a Republican and which was easily passed on October 18 by 57-39 in the Republican-controlled Assembly. Next, Senator Frank Lasee made the dramatic announcement on November 1 that he, as Chairman of the Senate Insurance Committee, was killing AB 210 by letting it die in his committee. In response, Walker then approved an emergency rule that bypassed the state legislature, accomplished the same purpose as AB 210, and thereby brought Wisconsin statutes into compliance with ObamaCare law.

5. His administration has helped sign people up for the ObamaCare exchanges.

In the meantime, Walker has encouraged state agencies to work with individuals to help them transition to coverage on the exchange. “Even though I’m obviously not a supporter (of Obamacare), I don’t want people to fall between the cracks,” he said.
Interestingly, though liberals have accused Republican governors of trying to sabotage Obamacare, Wisconsin is one of a small number of states where signups for health insurance through February tracked better than projected.

“At least for me, and probably other governors who are in a similar position, we’re not proponents of the law, but it is the law, and more importantly, until we can change and come up with something better to replace the law, we still care about our constituents, we still want people to do well,” he said. “A lot of people think that Republicans like me would want to sabotage the law by making it hard or difficult for people to sign up. I think that’s somewhat shortsighted by our critics, because what we care about more than anything are the people we represent.”

6. He went after public sector unions, except those that he didn’t want to go after.

Walker has introduced a bill that would strip public employees across the board – from teachers to snowplow drivers – of their right to collectively bargain for sick leave, vacation, even the hours they work. But absolutely nothing would change for local police, fire departments and the State Patrol.

The bill smacks of political favoritism for public safety unions that supported Walker’s election bid last year and sets up new haves and have-nots in Wisconsin government, said Paul Secunda, a Marquette University professor who specializes in labor law.

“That’s called ’thank you, I got your back,’” Secunda said. “There’s no surprise there. This is the worst type of favoritism there could be.”

7. He has endorsed crony-capitalism by way of providing $220 million in taxpayer money to finance an NBA stadium.

Calling his plan a “common-sense, fiscally conservative approach,” Gov. Scott Walker on Tuesday said new growth in income tax revenue from Milwaukee Bucks players, employees and visiting teams will generate enough money to cover debt payments on $220 million in state-issued bonds for a new arena.

Walker told members of the Metropolitan Milwaukee Association of Commerce and media at a news conference that he would put the plan in his state budget next week.

Walker called it a “Pay Their Way” proposal.

8. He’s a seemingly reluctant fighter on abortion.

“I’m still pro-life,” he added before dismissing how important the laws he signed were to voters. Defunding Planned Parenthood, he said, “gets some activists worked up, but taxpayers say ‘What’s the big deal there?’”

Last July, when Walker signed several pro-life bills, he did so without the fanfare that typically accompanies major bill signings. He signed the legislation behind closed doors the day after Independence Day, a Friday, when it was sure to get little media attention. His only announcement about the legislation was a generic tweet: “Spent the morning signing 18 bills into law.”

Walker’s downplaying of abortion has been more than rhetorical. Walker now seems to be backing away from support for several pro-life bills that may soon reach his desk. One would ensure that state taxpayer funds are not used to fund abortions for state employees and exempt religious entities from having to pay for health insurance coverage that includes abortion-inducing drugs; another would outlaw sex-selection abortions; and another would allow for voluntary purchases of Choose Life specialty license plates, like those available in many states.

Having already passed the state assembly, these bills are being held up in the Republican-controlled Senate. The consensus from Wisconsin political observers is that Walker could easily get them passed in the Senate and to his desk for signing — if he made them a priority.

There is many more if you care to read anything on him....? Check out number 2 and 4 and tell me if you like him....PFFT

originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
a reply to: 200Plus

Open your eyes, he's going to run as an Independent and split the vote ensuring a victory for Clinton.

Who cares? Operation sideshow is funny and these people who think Rand is his father are SORELY mistaken....

Donald is the only honest person available and he tells it like it is....JUST LIKE ME! Love it

I cannot believe you used "Donald" and "Honest" in the same sentence. The only one on the stage that caught my attention was Kassich, and it is nice to see him move up in the polls. Carson did well, but I don't think he has a snowball's chance in hell/

a reply to: whyamIhere I'm not even American so don't watch any of your crud. I just recognise an idiot when I see one. We have them in the UK, just don't see them as politicians more like columnists in the tabloid press.

originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: Chrisfishenstein



Hey it's ok if Rand doesn't win

I like Carson and Fiorina and walker too! You know real conservatives

Yep Walker is a conservative......hahaha

Boy oh boy it's no wonder our politicians are who they are.....You keep believing those internet pages you open for each candidate buddy!

Says the guy supporting trump who claims to be conservative

Irony

a reply to: charolais
Rand flaked out because he is a career politician at heart. He does not want to upset the status quo. None of the career politicians will do anything to create a problem for themselves after the elections.

I was shocked yesterday when the Donald said his favorite book was the Bible.

I am having a real hard time believing that one.

Trump may be a pompous blowhard buuuut he does kind of have a point in that does Rand even stand a chance for the nomination? These days I kind of loosely base my thoughts on a perspective candidates chances on whether or not they are popular with the enlightened members here at ATS.

Lots of members like = not a chance, Some members like = hmm maybe, no one likes = most likely the candidate we get.

I could see Trumps official campaign slogan now "Trump card, BOOOM in YO face!!"

a reply to: BubbaJoe

How is he not? Dude tells it like it is and he isn't lying about it because it is terrible (most of what he says)....He isn't a fancy dancy little crybaby....Don't like Mexicans? EFF it I will build a wall to keep em out...HELL YEAH (not feasible but who cares?) ....Blast Megan what's her name for calling him out? Sure, doesn't make him a woman hater just defending himself...Tells all the dumb asses on stage in a debate he has given money to just about all of them....What guy not being honest would say this stuff?

At least he doesn't Rand or Walker his way off stage by tucking his tail and running away....Or giving in to pressure and saying what the puppet masters say....I am sick of our systems, I am all for change! Bring on the Don!

originally posted by: whyamIhere
Trump 2016

Cause I just don't give a snip...

I can't even imagine.

a reply to: Chrisfishenstein


Lol I notice you got nothing on Carson fiorina or Paul

Just picked one that was convenient. Eh?

Shall we compare them all w trump?

You've got 2 things on walker compared to trumps laundry list!

The man who is pro single payer system, pro common core, pro PP , voted for Obama and the clintons and still maintains a relationship w them enough to get advice?

Please lol you don't have a leg to stand on w trump

a reply to: TheLieWeLive
I believe Donald will win the whole thing. The GOP wants him to beat Hillary and the rest of the Dems, whoever they are. No one can compete with his billions. Even though money does not always buy a win.

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: Chrisfishenstein



Hey it's ok if Rand doesn't win

I like Carson and Fiorina and walker too! You know real conservatives

Yep Walker is a conservative......hahaha

Boy oh boy it's no wonder our politicians are who they are.....You keep believing those internet pages you open for each candidate buddy!

Says the guy supporting trump who claims to be conservative

Irony

Huh? I like Trump....Please don't mistake that with support....Me telling you he tells things as they are are much different than support...All I have said so far are the things he said and did so far and you already knew it....He is fighting with one of yo boyeeezzz!

originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: Chrisfishenstein



Hey it's ok if Rand doesn't win

I like Carson and Fiorina and walker too! You know real conservatives

Yep Walker is a conservative......hahaha

Boy oh boy it's no wonder our politicians are who they are.....You keep believing those internet pages you open for each candidate buddy!

Says the guy supporting trump who claims to be conservative

Irony

Huh? I like Trump....Please don't mistake that with support....Me telling you he tells things as they are are much different than support...All I have said so far are the things he said and did so far and you already knew it....He is fighting with one of yo boyeeezzz!

Sure sounds like support

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Please lol you don't have a leg to stand on w trump

AGAIN.....He is an effing businessman....How can you even compare the 2?? I feel like the rest of insane America here....For the 20th time now, you are comparing lifelong politicians to a freaking businessman...No crap people can't argue policy with you....If those lies they spew called "policy" make you feel better about voting please stay tuned....

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: Chrisfishenstein



Hey it's ok if Rand doesn't win

I like Carson and Fiorina and walker too! You know real conservatives

Yep Walker is a conservative......hahaha

Boy oh boy it's no wonder our politicians are who they are.....You keep believing those internet pages you open for each candidate buddy!

Says the guy supporting trump who claims to be conservative

Irony

Huh? I like Trump....Please don't mistake that with support....Me telling you he tells things as they are are much different than support...All I have said so far are the things he said and did so far and you already knew it....He is fighting with one of yo boyeeezzz!

Sure sounds like support

Defending and support are not the same.....I hold no cards in POTUS.....Thought that was pretty clear.....Told you at the beginning I was defending him to piss you off....See, you don't read again

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
I was shocked yesterday when the Donald said his favorite book was the Bible.

I am having a real hard time believing that one.

I think he meant he liked his own book first.

Second, if he had to pick....The Bible