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originally posted by: Korg TrinityWe should be able to say that only people of a certain quality are allowed in.
The UK is full of heavy drinkers with bad eating habits who are ignorant, intolerant and too nationalistic – so it’s just as well that we are also very polite. It might sound like a stereotypical list of national traits, but these are the views of more than 5,000 young adults from five different countries who were asked to give their opinion on modern Britain by the British Council.
originally posted by: DAVID64
We in the U.S. are facing much the same problem. Illegals flooding the country and govt doing little to enforce the law or stop them. The corporations want them for cheap labor, the politicians want them for the votes. What We The People want seems to be completely ignored.
originally posted by: Rocker2013
a reply to: SecretFace
Here's the deal, and the problem with pretty much everything you have said.
What most people understand are the following realities:
1. You are not "better" or "more Human" than any of those people coming here to the UK.
2. You are the product of thousands of years of Human migration.
3. These people are indeed looking for a better life, and you would be doing exactly the same if you were born where they were.
4. The Internet has allowed these people to see how lucky we are in our free and open societies, and they justifiably want that too.
5. Our governments have done nothing but abuse these nations for centuries, we have been profiteering from their dictatorships, from their wars, from their poverty and their suffering.
6. Nothing will change until we change the source of this problem, and the source of this problem is the lack of opportunity, the lack of employment, the risk of death and the massive poverty these people have to endure in their own countries.
The only way we can change what is happening is if we make a genuine and concerted effort to change the countries they are fleeing.
originally posted by: XyZeR
a reply to: Korg Trinity
You do not meet my criteria for having a a civil debate, you are not up to my standards.therefor i "deport" you from this discussion.
BTw if you go back far enough in time, everybody is an immigrant...
originally posted by: ForteanOrg
originally posted by: Korg TrinityWe should be able to say that only people of a certain quality are allowed in.
You mean - qualities like these:
The UK is full of heavy drinkers with bad eating habits who are ignorant, intolerant and too nationalistic – so it’s just as well that we are also very polite. It might sound like a stereotypical list of national traits, but these are the views of more than 5,000 young adults from five different countries who were asked to give their opinion on modern Britain by the British Council.
I wonder where they got their stupid ideas. I mean, given your well-balanced commentaries here, we can all see that they are wrong..
originally posted by: Korg Trinity
I'm talking about qualities like these..
1. Education back ground - did they finish school and college / any further education?
2. What skills can they provide when they are here (professional skills such as Doctor / Nurse / It / Management / Technical / Engineering) etc..
3. The ability to provide their own accommodation
4. To already have a job before migrating
5. The ability to pay their own way including paying for their taxes and receiving no state benefit until paid enough into the system to receive back out.
How very obnoxious of you.
originally posted by: ForteanOrg
Do you propose that the UK expells all UK residents that did not complete secondary education? There are millions of Brits that did not finish college.
Again: do you propose that the UK expels all UK residents that do not qualify as doctors, nurses, IT specialists.. ??
There are millions of Brits that can't - so they get help. Do you propose to expell them too?
.. and so we'll expell everybody without a job from the UK??
But you DO think that folks that were born in the UK should receive benefit, though they never paid enough into the system?
We're done, methinks.
originally posted by: XyZeR
a reply to: Korg Trinity
How very obnoxious of you.
Oh you don't like that kind of thinking? It was your logic/way of "thinking" applied to your own posts in this thread, not so cool when you are on the receiving end of your own logic ,isn't it? FYI It's exactly what you have been doing throughout this thread.
So, Pot : meet kettle?
originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: ForteanOrg
WE in the UK dont don't give a flying # on the insane liberal European view on immigration.
WE in the UK do not want uncontrolled and illegal immigration!
WE in the UK do not want to turn our country into a 3rd world cesspit like were these immigrants come from.
WE in the UK do not care care what our European neighbors think.
You can rant and rave to your little bleeding hearts content and it wont matter Our minds are made up.
You just wasting time and going round in circles here.
Come the referendum Im voteing out. Europe has gone insane.
originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: Korg Trinity
Honesty I dont Know why they refuse to get it ?
Hahaha!
originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: Korg Trinity
Well the more they bitch and whine the More likely we will leave .
And I say good!
originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: Korg Trinity
Well the more they bitch and whine the More likely we will leave .
And I say good!