Why is ATS so Right Wing?

a reply to: JUhrman

My perception of this site is that its posters are, for the most part, both anti-goverment and anti-corporate.

ATS seems to be authoritative progressive if there's such a thing. The site owners down to the posters who flock into every thread preaching "logic" and deeming any source unacceptable that isn't official. Here's what you better not question if you want to be ATS-WORTHY

9/11
Apollo
Vaccines
Evolution
NASA
Chemtrails
AGW

Now, I don't question all or I'm just flat-out not educated enough on the aforementioned topics. But, it seems that you're somewhat frowned upon for questioning these by a groupthink mentality.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: JUhrman

My perception of this site is that its posters are, for the most part, both anti-goverment and anti-corporate.

Yeah, and by doing so they alienate their only way to control both these powers more: giving mandate to the government to regulate corporations.

Which, when you discuss the topic with Americans, they strangely find to be a repulsive idea, preferring to believe they can have any power on these two powers staying out of their sphere. A strong delusion.

Have you ever heard of the saying "the squeaky wheel gets the grease"? I think that would apply to this particular topic.

The Right-wing is very vocal in their beliefs and the internet has become a great place for them to "evangelize" to the rest of us.

originally posted by: introvert
The Right-wing is very vocal in their beliefs and the internet has become a great place for them to "evangelize" to the rest of us.

Yep, exactly like Christian fundamentalism. Even though they are a minority, almost every time religions are discussed it's mostly about fundamentalism.

originally posted by: thesearchfortruth
What about this site attracts so many conservatives? I know there are many who seem to hate all political parties, but it seems that most of the hate is directed towards the Democrats. Just so my position is clear, I like and dislike aspects of both parties, but I'm more liberal than conservative.

Probably because the Democrats basically took over the US government for quite a few years along with Obama. A site like this is naturally going to be more critical of the people who are currently running things. I know the Republicans had a pretty big win recently but it's gonna be a long damn time before anyone forgets what Obama has done with the help of a Democrat majority.

Also, I think a lot of people here tend to lean more libertarian and libertarianism is quite a bit closer to conservatism than it is the current liberalism. The conservatives are not exactly libertarian but then again, there is nothing libertarian about the Democrats.

originally posted by: BrianFlanders

Probably because the Democrats basically took over the US government for quite a few years along with Obama. A site like this is naturally going to be more critical of the people who are currently running things. I know the Republicans had a pretty big win recently but it's gonna be a long damn time before anyone forgets what Obama has done with the help of a Democrat majority.

You mean getting rid of the Bush legacy (Guantanamo, Irak & Afghan war, 9/11, ...) ?

a reply to: thesearchfortruth

Right-wing conservatives come here because we are evil and are trying to take over the world by indoctrination, peer pressure, social engineering, PC standards, political influences.

And we hate kittens. Even the tiny ones with the smoochy faces.

originally posted by: BrianFlanders

originally posted by: thesearchfortruth
What about this site attracts so many conservatives? I know there are many who seem to hate all political parties, but it seems that most of the hate is directed towards the Democrats. Just so my position is clear, I like and dislike aspects of both parties, but I'm more liberal than conservative.

Probably because the Democrats basically took over the US government for quite a few years along with Obama. A site like this is naturally going to be more critical of the people who are currently running things. I know the Republicans had a pretty big win recently but it's gonna be a long damn time before anyone forgets what Obama has done with the help of a Democrat majority.

Also, I think a lot of people here tend to lean more libertarian and libertarianism is quite a bit closer to conservatism than it is the current liberalism. The conservatives are not exactly libertarian but then again, there is nothing libertarian about the Democrats.

Personally, I hope no one ever forgets what he's done, that vile, evil man

Carry on

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke

originally posted by: BrianFlanders

Probably because the Democrats basically took over the US government for quite a few years along with Obama. A site like this is naturally going to be more critical of the people who are currently running things. I know the Republicans had a pretty big win recently but it's gonna be a long damn time before anyone forgets what Obama has done with the help of a Democrat majority.

You mean getting rid of the Bush legacy (Guantanamo, Irak & Afghan war, 9/11, ...) ?

No. I mean like basically quietly continuing down the same path and throwing in stuff like Obamacare individual mandate to boot. In case you didn't notice, the legal ramifications of that mandate will stick around long after all the bickering over health insurance has subsided. And they are not going to be pleasant for anyone who likes to make their own decisions. Here we have a major legal precedent that says the government can basically require you to do anything it deems necessary and punish you if you don't.

People are going to regret supporting this sooner or later. And the creepy big brother system that was put in place by Bush hasn't gone anywhere.

a reply to: beezzer

I don't know about the smoochy-faced kittens, but you are correct on the other parts.

Neoconservatism has become very good at indoctrinating people into certain beliefs through political/peer pressure. They have also set specific standards or what is PC. PC is being a white Christian that believes gay marriage is wrong, war is an acceptable tool to push our weight around the world and anything that does not fit in to their myopic worldview is another evil of socialism.

a reply to: JUhrman

Not following. How is wanting a smaller government and no Corporatocracy giving them power? By definition you would be limiting thier power.

a reply to: introvert

It's a good thing that the liberal left is so tolerant and peaceful and open-minded, or else we'd all be in trouble!

*whew*

Am not sure of the big difference between Libertarians and Conservatives politically if they are represented under the Tea Party, and the public face is Rand Paul and Ted Cruz then they are just a more vocal arm of the GOP imo , btw I liked his dad waay more than I like him.
As far as ATSers go yeah there are more conservatives than Libs, but the Libs/Progressives on board are no shrinking violets they'll let you know what time it is in a NY min.

a reply to: BrianFlanders

Hey no one said it was easy to go from no healthcare protection to a perfect system in a few years. It's not perfect but still better than nothing at all. There is still room from improvement, that's how politics work. You try, you criticize, you improve.

With all the lobbying against an healthcare it's still awesome he managed to get something done. Now the US can start joining the ranks of more socially evolved countries.

Of course the republicans will demonize anything done by Obama, and of course paranoid people will consider it an evil plot.

There is nothing evil in trying to introduce a bit more social progress in a country where people have been brainwashed to think the word socialism is the equivalent of nazi. But of course it will be difficult because republicans really seem to hate anything that sounds like social progress because it has the word "social" in it and it gives them sores.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: JUhrman

Not following. How is wanting a smaller government and no Corporatocracy giving them power? By definition you would be limiting thier power.

And please tell me how do you prevent Corporatocracy with less government? It's basically opening an highway for it to happen.

Not only does ATS seem very balanced in the political subject , but just about any subject you can think of. I was a lurker for about the first 4 years of this site.joined one time way back when but life took me away from here.I have been around here since about day 1 and I can assure you it is about 50-50 on all subjects. That is what makes it great.

ATS seems like an extension of the Rush Limbaugh radio program; the most listened to program on the Radio.
Sometimes the cut and paste jobs of the Limbaugh letter is so obvious....

www.thelimbaughletter.com...

But I don't want to insult Hannity, ORilley, Savage, M medved, G. Liddy, Maloney, H. Turner, D Prager, O. North, M Reagan,
D. Miller, A Keys, Cain, A Coulter, L Ingram, N Boortz, Levin and last but not Least, Glen Beck. Can't ignore them....

All conservative radio/TV hosts with a broad appeal and audience; is it any wonder their influence is felt here on ATS?

Fair and Balanced?

a reply to: BrianFlanders

By praising a guy like Rand Paul for ex., you forget - or did not acknowledge - that what caused the previous housing and foreclosures crisis was the lack of regulation.

Obamacare is the minimal amount of citizenship self-responsability about one of the most relevant structure that any 'civilized' state should put in place for its citizens : a decent healthcare system.

Obama may not be perfect but I'm quite sure he will leave his tracks in US history in a more glorious way than the Bush family ever expected for themselves. He did even manage to get rig of issues so old that no living US president can be blamed for it's original inheritance : the Cuban crisis.

originally posted by: JUhrman
a reply to: BrianFlanders

Hey no one said it was easy to go from no healthcare protection to a perfect system in a few years. It's not perfect but still better than nothing at all.

Yeah. Ask those Brits who are busy pulling out their teeth with pliers about the joys of letting the government decide whether or not your medical problems are a priority or whether they can fit them into the budget without raising taxes
(again).

Actually, Obama did say it was gonna be easy. He basically said "Vote for me and there won't be an individual mandate like there will be if you vote for Hitlary". So people believed him and they voted for him and lo and behold, we had Obamacare, complete with an individual mandate. How did that happen? Oh, wait. The man lied. No one voted for Obamacare as we know it except for Obama, the Democrats and the Supreme Court. The people who actually voted for Obama didn't even know what they were voting for (because the man couldn't tell the truth if he had to).