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originally posted by: princeofpeace
Numbers and codes are all bull #. You can take any event and if one looks hard enough they can come up with some silly numerics to tie to it that has absolutely nothing to do with it. Its for folks with tin foil hats on who live in parents basements.
originally posted by: SurrenderingAmerica
originally posted by: maddy21
Check this out , Kiev traffic controllers deliberately lead the aircraft into the combat zone . There is obviously something suspicious here
Just adding more info to what you posted.
There also appears to have been two Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jets tailing MH17 up until the 'incident'.
radar on vine
The next bit of info is from a Spanish employee who works at ATC (Air Traffic Control) Borispol Kiev:
*Please be patient & read through his comments -- could prove to be valuable in the future*
The air space closes, for fear of more demolitions
The air space closes
Jet fighters flew near the MH17 up to 3 minutes before it disappeared from the radar, just 3 minutes
Days ago I said here, kiev military wanted to rise against the current president, this may be a a Timoshenko move
Military men confirm that it was ukraine, but it follows without knowing wherefrom the order came
The Secretary of the Interior if there knew that, the fighters were doing in the zone, the Defense Secretary not.
Here the military controls handle and admit that military men to other orders, could be, but not, the pro-Russian
In the radars it is quite quiet, for the incredulous ones, knocked down for kiev, here we know it and military air control also
Plane B777 was flying escorted by 2 ukraine fighters until moments before it disappeared from radar
right after the flight disappeared from radar the kiev military authority informed us of the crash...
7 minutes in, they claimed the plane was shot down and then foreign personnel who are still here took over the tower
All recorded on radar, for unbelievers, shot down by #Kiev, here we know it & military air traffic control knows it too
*I translated most of it from spanish to english. -- most recent comments start from top and works downward*
Basically, the ATC knows that Ukraine military shot down plane but. . . no one knows who gave the order! The other part is that 'foreign' personnel took over tower & are still there.
Figured I would post this to add info to thread
originally posted by: Hellas
originally posted by: AstralTrespass
Dutch news just showed a tapped phone call released by Ukranian intelligence that has rebel leaders admitting they downed the plane by accident, if I understood correctly.
That seems pretty quick to release such a thing.
That's funny, cause in the lifenews video I posted earlier, they show a lot of Dutch passports (mint condition). They even open some and show their holders.