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originally posted by: Psynic
originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: Zaphod58
Please suspend the conclusions people.
Let's wait until they can't locate the black box.
Russian-backed separatist leader Igor Girkin (who also goes by the name of Strelkov) claimed credit. "The plane has just been taken down somewhere around Torez (Donetsk Oblast). It lays there behind the Progress mine. We did warn you – do not fly in 'our sky.' And here is the video proving another 'bird' falling down. The bird went down behind the slagheap, not in the residential district. So no peaceful people were injured." There is also information about another plane shot.
The Buk missile system that the Donetsk People's Republic's Kremlin-backed insurgents claimed to be in their possession this summer. The Buk system is capable of shooting down a jetliner flying at the altitude of the crashed Malaysia Airlines plane carrying 295 people.
Strelkov, however, apparently mistook the plane for the Ukrainian air force's. He is a Moscow native who Ukraine's State Security Service says is a high-ranking officer in Russia's military intelligence department.
It appears the Russian-backed separatists had weapons capable of downing a commercial flight at 10 kilometers high or 35,000 feet high.
originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul
originally posted by: Darkblade71
I am watching CNN, and they just said that it was very likely that it was shot down by Russian missiles.
However someone who is NOT tied in and just turns his search and acquisition radar on will only see a "blip" - with no further identification.
originally posted by: mclarenmp4
a reply to: tranquilone666
OK then did they swap out the bodies mid flight as well? There's plenty of photo's online of the debris field filled with bodies and I'm sure they will get positively identified as people who boarded MH17.
Sorry but your argument still makes no sense.
The military men to the orders of the Secretary of the Interior knew in every moment what happened.
For that it should not be known it, let's say this way, there are military men to the orders of the Defense Secretary and military to the orders of the Secretary of the Interior
The high military controls did not arrange the throwing of the missile, someone him went away the hand on behalf of ukraine
The military radars collected data from the missile fired at the plane, civilian radar no
In the report it indicates itself wherefrom it was opening gone out the missile, and it is specified that it does not come from the self-defense in the rebellious zones
The official report signed by the control mil authorities is in the hands of the gov: downed
Military control delivers right now of official form that the plane was knocked down by missile