Israelis photographed with popcorn and chairs, cheering as IDF bombs Palestinian targets inside Gaza

originally posted by: Vamana
a reply to: loveguy

I never knew that a small group of people represent the whole country, so because these few people sit on the hill and cheer everybody in the country is exactly the same as them? what kind of logic is that?.

these type of fanatic people who love seeing others get hurt are in every corner of this world.

The logic is that none of these spectators are being chastised by their governmental body, but encouraged.

Nurturing a nation of sociopaths.

originally posted by: Char-Lee

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: daaskapital

I don't blame these individuals. Anyone else would do the same. People always gather and rubber neck around accidents, fires, riots, chase tornadoes and run with bulls! I wouldn't be cheering, but I sure would want to be a witness and photograph what I've seen. It's only human nature.

Do you know anyone who laughs at accidents and fires while people die?

Unfortunately, I do. A whole culture of people who enjoy watching their perceived enemies defeated.

I have commanded those I prepared for battle; I have summoned my warriors to carry out my wrath-- those who rejoice in my triumph.
Isaiah 13:3

There's tons more like this littered all throughout the Bible.

When I was a kid I was constantly blasted with the "Bomb "Em" mentality, and "God gave us the "Bomb" to kill all those heathen Japs", and "Let's bring on Armageddon and help hasten the return of Jesus. "Rejoice, when you hear of wars and rumours of wars, because it means "the end is near"!

I tried to sort it all out while watching Cowboys killing Indians on TV.

a reply to: daaskapital

Humans have outright supported the death of other human beings since the beginning of time. Seems to me YOU are the one who has lost touch with what human nature actually is.



Not using the Israeli Palestinian clash as direct example, but you are just in a situation where you are afforded the luxury to not fear for your life every day, so cheering for your survival is a foreign concept to you.

Hypothetically, would you support someone's death if that person, from your personal perspective, has caused countless atrocities and deaths against your people?

Don't worry, I expect you to jump back on your high horse and say you would never support anyone's death no matter the situation.

a reply to: loveguy

You think the government would publicly support this? "Nurturing a nation of sociopaths" LOL....exaggerate much?

Every evil you accuse the Israeli's, Palestinians, or ANY culture or people of committing....is found in every single other culture of man that has ever existed on this planet.

What's the only difference? External forces.

a reply to: daaskapital

Wouldn't you love to watch terrorists get killed?

I know I would. Israel is under constant attack from religious scumbags.
I don't know why they don't just level the entire place and be done with it.

originally posted by: jheated5
The beauty of all this is, the thinking of how liberals and bleeding hearts believe how we have progressively evolved into a peaceful people or how this can't happen in the 21st century... It happened 300+ years ago in America, surely we've learned a lesson, nope we watch history repeating itself right in front of our eyes.. The mentality of evolving as humans morally is a sham!

I've been giving a lot of thought to this lately. I abandoned the democrat party in 2009, after voting for Obama in the first election. Mostly because I started to see through his lies, but I couldn't identify with the democrat party as it had become, and their re-branding themselves as "progressives".

The democratic progressives that we have now, do not look at all familiar as the democrats of my grand parents and parents. I know that if my grandfather were alive, he would think they are authoritarian leftists, and I do believe that is what many of them are.

After Holly Fisher simply tweeted her frustration about the ACA and her baby daughter losing her cardiologist, a flurry of attacks from the left came hurling at her. When the death threats came pouring in, even for her baby, I was astonished. I have also seen death threats from the left in other instances online, especially where the ACA is concerned. It truly is bizarre and I cannot fully comprehend why this is happening.

I'm not going to say all democrats are sharing that same mentality, but many I see online, or the few I have encountered offline seem to be going the way of authoritarian socialism.... history does, repeat itself.

Abandoning the democratic party has kind of left me as a loner. I'm not quite a republican, not tea party, not libertarian... just a conservative, I guess.... worried about where my country is heading.

a reply to: Char-Lee

and when was war supposed to ever be fair? its not a duel at ten paces. You can post all the death statistics you want that just shows the IDF is winning and by a wide margin which tends to help win wars of attrition. if you go on population they are out numbered by a very wide margin by their neighbors(Egypt alone has 10x more people) and yet they seem to be holding their own quite well despite the "unfair" numerical superiority of their enemies.
en.wikipedia.org...

the whole Israeli defense policy hinges on killing ten times as many people as they loose and doing it as effectively and efficiently as possible,and can be seen in almost all of the wars it has fought since its founding.they started out with surplus ww2 gear,citizen solders holding their own and then developed into the most militarily advanced force in the region (although they still use the half tracks from ww2 and Sherman tanks)
en.wikipedia.org...

the 1948 war was the only one where the Israelis lost more then they took out but being 7vs1 nation wise (+a few coalitions) and it directly lead to the reprisal operations and was the granddaddy of what we see today (knock Knock strikes)
A=ahrab I=Israeli

Reprisal operations (1950s - 1960s) - Military operations carried out by the Israel Defense Forces during the 1950s and 1960s. These actions were in response to constant fedayeen incursions during which Arab guerillas infiltrated from Syria, Egypt, and Jordan into Israel to carry out attacks against Israeli civilians and soldiers. The policy of the reprisal operations was exceptional due to Israel's declared aim of getting a high 'blood cost' among the enemy side which was believed to be necessary in order to deter them from committing future attacks.

with loosing 1000(I) to take out 5000(A) it was the first time the tactic was successful and was used again to varying success in the Suez crisis as well

6days war is the best example of their tactic as they not only got impressive kill to death ratio while facing two to one odds(more in tanks and equipment) but nearly tripled their holdings of land. oddly enough some would consider the odds against the Israelis as "unfair" yet they achieved victory.

perhaps it is because they(Israel) are not throwing rocks and launching indiscriminate rocket attacks against people with air superiority and a history of out killing their enemies at a 10 to one ratio.Every time the Israelis go to war they do it to take out as much men and material as they can in hopes of staving off the tide and like them or not they excel at this as if they didn't they would not exist as a nation.

And by having done this since the late 40's it is bound to have an effect on its civilian population (hence them watching and cheering on their team) over the decades of nearly constant attacks and war and skirmishes and have a different perspective on daily life then most of us on ATS have ,I mean when was the last time any of us had to run into the local bomb shelters to avoid rocket attacks or worry about suicide bombings when just going out to shop?how often do we in the west have to worry about being drafted/conscripted in the middle of the night to possibly have to defend our nation against a multinational coalition who's goals are our complete destruction? this is daily life for them and if i lived there id probably cheer at the people who were trying to kill me getting blown to smithereens. less then 10 million people have held off against nations that have over 385+more million people then they do while living in an area barely bigger then New Jersey so i guess if we are gonna complain about "unfair" situations in war we could start with that one

Are those folks in the pics in the Israeli Gov? I dont think so. a reply to: milomilo

originally posted by: samsamm9
These people have lost their humanity. It's beyond disturbing. What can be said anymore ?
Someone please explain to me how is this acceptable ...
Zionism have poisoned their souls and minds, god help us all.

Both sides of the fence down there lost their humanity a long time ago. I say let them all kill each other, and let God sort them out. Its about time the rest of the world stop trying to make peace down there, because both sides obviously don't want it.

a reply to: milomilo

One thing for sure, the Jewish people are entitled to return to their homeland and rebuild their nation Israel.

Why?

While I too would cheer on the destruction of those who have declared their ultimate goal is the extinction of me and my people, this reminds me of:



"The Bravery Of Being Out Of Range"

You have a natural tendency
To squeeze off a shot
You're good fun at parties
You wear the right masks
You're old but you still
Like a laugh in the locker room
You can't abide change
You're at home an the range
You opened your suitcase
Behind the old workings
To show off the magnum
You deafened the canyon
A comfort a friend
Only upstaged in the end
By the Uzi machine gun
Does the recoil remind you
Remind you of sex
Old man what the hell you gonna kill next
Old timer who you gonna kill next
I looked over Jordan and what did I see
Saw a U.S. Marine in a pile of debris
I swam in your pools
And lay under your palm trees
I looked in the eyes of the Indian
Who lay on the Federal Building steps
And through the range finder over the hill
I saw the front line boys popping their pills
Sick of the mess they find
On their desert stage
And the bravery of being out of range
Yeah the question is vexed
Old man what the hell you gonna kill next
Old timer who you gonna kill next
Hey bartender over here
Two more shots
And two more beers
Sir turn up the TV sound
The war has started on the ground
Just love those laser guided bombs
They're really great
For righting wrongs
You hit the target
And win the game
From bars 3,000 miles away
3,000 miles away
We play the game
With the bravery of being out of range
We zap and maim
With the bravery of being out of range
We strafe the train
With the bravery of being out of range
We gained terrain
With the bravery of being out of range
With the bravery of being out of range
We play the game
With the bravery of being out of range

originally posted by: openyourmind1262
Im an atheist..But ever heard of a thing called the Bible? It explains that choice thing pretty well. Everyone one else is just Goyim to the jews, read up on that one as well. a reply to: TerrorAlertRed

You would have to do a DNA test on each person and be able to track their Family line all the way back to Abraham if you were to decide these are the chosen.

"and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed because you have obeyed Me." (Genesis 22:18)

The promise continued through Abraham's son Isaac, and then through Isaac's son Jacob. With Jacob the process accelerated and expanded. God changed Jacob's name to Israel, and from his 12 sons began the 12 tribes of Israel, the Israelites.

Among Israel's 12 sons was Judah. From his name, his descendants became known as Jews. Abraham was not a Jew. Isaac was not a Jew. Judah's 11 brothers were not Jews. They were all Israelites, but only Judah's children and descendants, right to this day, are actually qualified to be called Jews. It's more than identifying a correct name, it's a matter of identifying the correct line.

www.keyway.ca...

Plus they would have to play by his rules...

Their Position Was Conditional
.
(2) Notice all of the Scriptures given at the end of the first paragraph of this article. God’s continued blessing of Israel as a nation and people would be determined by their obedience to Him. It was all conditional. The big "if" was there. Otherwise the land would spew them out just like it did the Canaanites.

jgibbons.8m.com...'S-CHOSEN-PEOPLE.htm

Sure doesn't sound Kosher.

Wonder if any spectators got hit?

Are you equally disturbed when Hamas continues to launch rockets on residential areas and cheers jubilantly calling for the death of Israel? Get out of here with this false sense of morality.

originally posted by: Tatanka

originally posted by: jheated5
The beauty of all this is, the thinking of how liberals and bleeding hearts believe how we have progressively evolved into a peaceful people or how this can't happen in the 21st century... It happened 300+ years ago in America, surely we've learned a lesson, nope we watch history repeating itself right in front of our eyes.. The mentality of evolving as humans morally is a sham!

I've been giving a lot of thought to this lately. I abandoned the democrat party in 2009, after voting for Obama in the first election. Mostly because I started to see through his lies, but I couldn't identify with the democrat party as it had become, and their re-branding themselves as "progressives".

The democratic progressives that we have now, do not look at all familiar as the democrats of my grand parents and parents. I know that if my grandfather were alive, he would think they are authoritarian leftists, and I do believe that is what many of them are.

After Holly Fisher simply tweeted her frustration about the ACA and her baby daughter losing her cardiologist, a flurry of attacks from the left came hurling at her. When the death threats came pouring in, even for her baby, I was astonished. I have also seen death threats from the left in other instances online, especially where the ACA is concerned. It truly is bizarre and I cannot fully comprehend why this is happening.

I'm not going to say all democrats are sharing that same mentality, but many I see online, or the few I have encountered offline seem to be going the way of authoritarian socialism.... history does, repeat itself.

Abandoning the democratic party has kind of left me as a loner. I'm not quite a republican, not tea party, not libertarian... just a conservative, I guess.... worried about where my country is heading.

I believe if you look back to JFK you will find that his politics are much aligned with yours.

JFK was to the right of today's GOP. It really is a sad state of affairs in America. We get to choose from corporate fascists that take orders from the central government or a central government that takes orders from corporate fascists. In the end they both play the game to ensure it's either one of those options. Liberty, independence, responsibility, and equal rights for all are ideas missing in execution from both parties. Servitude is the spirit of the times.

originally posted by: FreedomEntered

originally posted by: TerrorAlertRed
a reply to: openyourmind1262

Chosen for what? smh

Chosen to hear Gods truth. That's what it means. And then spread the word.

Ie, time line of Judaism then Christianity and the Islam.

As most people agree Jews brought the concept of one god to everyone.

Actually the spread of the belief in one God was by Christians who were the new chosen.

Ancient Jews[1] believed that many gods exist but felt that they should only worship y-h-v-h[2] and maintained this notion for hundreds of years, and this fact is found in hundreds of verses in the Hebrew Bible.

jgibbons.8m.com...'S-CHOSEN-PEOPLE.htm

originally posted by: Jungian

originally posted by: samsamm9
These people have lost their humanity. It's beyond disturbing. What can be said anymore ?
Someone please explain to me how is this acceptable ...
Zionism have poisoned their souls and minds, god help us all.

Both sides of the fence down there lost their humanity a long time ago. I say let them all kill each other, and let God sort them out. Its about time the rest of the world stop trying to make peace down there, because both sides obviously don't want it.

well that would have to include the US stop financing Israeli side of the war.

www.businessinsider.com...

U.S. military aid to Israel was $2.775 billion in 2010, $3 billion in 2011, $3.07 billion in 2012 (and $3.15 billion per year from 2013-2018)

Read more: www.businessinsider.com...

originally posted by: avenged10fold
Sure doesn't sound Kosher.

Wonder if any spectators got hit?

Koshar, made me think of the law...thou shalt not kill

According to jewish law in war

Even when self defense is mandatory or permissible and one may kill a person or group of people who are seeking to kill one who is innocent, one may not:

1] Kill an innocent32 third party to save a life;

2] Compel a person to risk his life to save the life of another;

3] Kill the pursuer after his evil act is over as a form of punishment.

4] Use more force than minimally needed.33

www.jlaw.com...

originally posted by: Char-Lee

originally posted by: Jungian

originally posted by: samsamm9
These people have lost their humanity. It's beyond disturbing. What can be said anymore ?
Someone please explain to me how is this acceptable ...
Zionism have poisoned their souls and minds, god help us all.

Both sides of the fence down there lost their humanity a long time ago. I say let them all kill each other, and let God sort them out. Its about time the rest of the world stop trying to make peace down there, because both sides obviously don't want it.

well that would have to include the US stop financing Israeli side of the war.

www.businessinsider.com...

U.S. military aid to Israel was $2.775 billion in 2010, $3 billion in 2011, $3.07 billion in 2012 (and $3.15 billion per year from 2013-2018)

Read more: www.businessinsider.com...

It's nice that you left the 5 billion to Palestine out...

opencrs.com...

Since the establishment of limited Palestinian self-rule in the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the mid-1990s, the U.S. government has committed approximately $5 billion in bilateral assistance to the Palestinians, who are among the world's largest per capita recipients of international foreign aid.

Israeli teens sit around and watch the bombing from afar and are condemned.

Palestinian teens are strapped with bombs and sent in to blow up civilians

Who are the monsters?