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Blastoff
Ok now let me get this straight... so now all of a sudden it is feasible to make fuel from water?
Sure wish they could do that here on earth!
crazyewok
reply to post by MALBOSIA
Life and devopment move forward. You cant stop it.
Moving out into our solar system is Inevitable.
Unless you come up with some REAL solid reasons moving into space will kill us all then its just Irrational baseless fear.
The earth can not support our growing population and modern living.
You have 4 options:
1) go with science and progress and hope it leads us somewhere nice.
2) Kill yourself and help sort the overpopulation out
3) Smash all you tec up and go live in a mud hut off the grid
4) Do nothing and end up watching the human race detsroy itself and the planet/
I opt for option 1
crazyewok
reply to post by MALBOSIA
Stop what?
I want to see progression. Im with option1. Your the one stuck on option 4 of doing nothing.
The resources in the solar system can supply us with everything we need for thousands of years 100000000x over!
As soon as we reach the stars all competition and wars over our finite land and resources stop.
Why fight over rare earths when its as common as dirt?
There more pros than I see cons with moveing into space.
eriktheawful
reply to post by MALBOSIA
Military contracts?
Okay: it's MUCH easier to drop bombs from low Earth orbit, or from Geosynchornous orbit, than it is from the moon. It is a LOT harder to drop things from the moon on to the Earth. It can be done, but it would take DAYS for it to reach here. Days in which anything sent, will be seen well in advanced and intercepted.
Surprise and quickness works much better.
Much easier, much faster, and much more pin point accuracy to drop things directly from orbit about the Earth. Which we can already do if we want, with little fuss, no huge rockets to get to the moon, and on a much faster time scale.
The only other thing I can think of for military presence on the moon would be to take over someone's claim or to defend a claim. Considering how big the moon is, and how long it would take to fully colonize it, that would be rather funny. By the time we've done that, we'll be busy working on Mars and the asteroids.
crazyewok
reply to post by MALBOSIA
Well you obviously still have a 1980's mind-set.
Private sector has being making leaps and strides in the last couple of years.
SpaceX have turned the LEO launch costs upside down with only there first attempts and pretty much have put Lockheed and Boeing to shame and have plane for decreasing the costs further.
Then you have plans like SKYLON that plan a simple Single stage to orbit vessel capable of transporting cargo and crew which is coming along nicely and has even secured UK government funding which is a big feat over here at the moment and to top it off there’s some tec in the pipeline from boeing that going to make SSTO a very real possibility.
It does not have to kill us all to be not worth the risk. How can it be baseless as it is based on past experience of human behaviour? That is not baseless. Irrational? No, logically, you look at past actions and project them forward. Thats not irrational either. It says a lot about the human race and about how government agencies work.
Unless you come up with some REAL solid reasons moving into space will kill us all then its just Irrational baseless fear.