reply to post by bbracken677
Do you realize you are parroting right wind propaganda?
A true conservative believes that the masses should be ruled by a small percentage of people who are better then everyone else. Those who think
differently have bought into the propaganda lies. Look at the results of what they do, and you will see the truth.
Wrong....this is your perverted representation. A true conservative believes in fiscal responsibility, lower taxation and lower spending. A true
conservative believes in a smaller, less intrusive govt with severe limitations on power. The above is claptrap.
The new deal was a tremendous success.
That's pretty funny given there are a lot of economists who believe the New Deal extended the Great Depression by years. They provide data and
analysis to support their opinions. What do you have? lol
Social Security and medicare have been tremendous successes. Medicaid has been used by conservatives and the neolibs to subsidize illegal
I see...so a Ponzi scheme is successful? By what measure? That is totally laughable. Obviously you have zero contact with elderly who depend on Social
Security. Who told you that SS was a tremendous success?
With regards to medicare and medicaid they have both been rife with fraud and wasteful spending...again: these are your examples of success? ROFL
I asked for a successful liberal policy or act passed in the last 30 years. You failed to provide a single example and the above examples, although
noble in intent, are symbols of failure and certainly not enacted within the last 30 years.
People who are against liberty, the rights of man, are not liberals.
Nor are they conservatives...what is your point? If anything, most laws that are passed that are intrusive at a personal level are liberal. Liberals
seem to think they know better than we do how we should live our lives and choose to use the law to force that on us. Example: NY city and the 32 oz
Niether Hitler, Stalin, nor Mussolini where liberal. They were all complete tyrants, monarchs, conservatives. They might have called themselves
socialist or communists, but that we just a propaganda ploy. None of these people believed in the rights of man, and everything they did was to strip
people of their rights, eliminate liberty, and that proves that they were not liberals.
OH...so the actual policies enacted involving such things as the govt owning industries are not socialist? So the dependence of the common people on
the govt for all manner of needs (housing, food, goods etc) is not communist?
You seem to confuse the true meanings there. You seem to believe that tyranny, by definition, is conservative which is wrong, wrong wrong. Tyranny is
not an economic philosophy and is not exclusive to conservatism or liberalism. Your knowledge of history is poor at best.
Out of control spending, Out of control taxation, Out of control growth of govt is the conservative agenda.
So...who filled your head full of this crap? Obviously you have no clue what conservatism is, or what it means. So you are saying that the EU is
filled with conservative govts?
By no definition of the term does conservatism represent the above and the display of ignorance exhibited by posting the above is astounding.
Carter did not tank the economy, it was Carter that pursued the strong dollar, which was the best thing he did, and Reagan benefited greatly
from Carters policy on the dollar.
You do realize that the strong dollar policy made our goods more expensive and less competitive to sell overseas. You do realize that by making our
dollar stronger it allowed imported goods to be sold cheaper here in the US giving imported goods the edge on domestically produced goods, thereby
sealing the fate on domestic production. This was followed, as a direct result of the policy, by the loss of MILLIONS of manufacturing jobs in the US
over the next 2 decades. Your grasp of economics is..non-existent.
Reagan enacted the largest tax increase in US history.
Oh really? Who told you this? No doubt some historical revisionist.
Over the course of his two terms in office, Reagan presided over several changes to the tax code. What is important to remember — what is vital to
understand — is that not all taxes are created equal.
When Democrats or media embrace Reagan for “raising taxes X number of times,” they are usually engaging in willful obfuscation. This is because
they know that when most people hear the words, “tax hike,” they naturally assume you mean raising income taxes. But tax rates (both nominal and
effective) dropped dramatically across-the-board during Reagan’s tenure.
Not only did the top individual income tax rate go from 70 to 28 percent! — but the tax code was also indexed for inflation (this is a big deal,
because inflation had heretofore pushed people into higher tax brackets — a double whammy.
Please address how cutting income taxes from 70% to 28% is the largest tax increase in history...
I raised a family, worked hard at my career, paid taxes, paid for groceries, purchased vehicles and a home during the 80s. I KNOW that what you posted
above is the biggest piece of shist I have ever heard. I KNOW what happened to my taxes when Reagan's tax cuts took place. I KNOW that taxes on
investments dropped, I KNOW because I LIVED it. Now take your young, ignorant a$$ back to school and learn something worthwhile instead of spouting BS
some other ignoputz mouthed.
Our current mess was created by Gingrich's contract on America which eliminated the key regulations that kept the ICBs from robbing us blind, which
is what has happened since then.
Perhaps you should actually do some research before making claims. These are the specific reforms addressed by the Contract WITH America:
=== Government and Operational Reforms ===
On the first day of their majority in the House, the Republicans promised to bring up for vote, eight major reforms:
# require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply to Congress;
# select a [[Big Four auditors|major, independent auditing firm]] to conduct a comprehensive [[audit]] of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;
# cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
# limit the terms of all committee chairs;
# ban the casting of [[Proxy voting|proxy votes]] in committee;
# require committee meetings to be open to the public;
# require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;
# guarantee an honest accounting of the [[United States budget process|Federal Budget]] by implementing zero base-line budgeting.
Very effing different from the perverted view you presented. Learn history or stfu.
I have very little tolerance with liars. Ignorance can be excused...outright lying is something totally different.
The claims of Republican conservatism are highly exaggerated. Most repubs have no idea what true conservatism is. During the early 21st century when
the Repubs controlled both the House, the Senate and the presidency as well they behaved in typical liberal fashion. Govt grew by leaps and bounds.
Liberal ideals support big govt, big spending and big taxation. This is indisputable by anyone with even half a brain who knows the difference between
truth and kool-aid.