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Bone75
reply to post by MrSpad
The title may be misleading (or not), but the statement itself is not a HOAX.
From your link...
Green reaffirmed his stance on the matter in front of the ceremony’s hundreds of attendees.
“There’s one thing we will not do, and that’s paying for aborting unborn fetuses,” Green said.
“We’ve got a battle to fight, and it may take years, but we feel like in the end we will win.”
If you'll notice he didn't mention what they're going to do if they lose.
MrSpad
Bone75
reply to post by MrSpad
The title may be misleading (or not), but the statement itself is not a HOAX.
From your link...
Green reaffirmed his stance on the matter in front of the ceremony’s hundreds of attendees.
“There’s one thing we will not do, and that’s paying for aborting unborn fetuses,” Green said.
“We’ve got a battle to fight, and it may take years, but we feel like in the end we will win.”
If you'll notice he didn't mention what they're going to do if they lose.
He said that letter is not from and they are not closing store, the opposite in fact and goes on to list how many. So yes the letter in the OP is a hoax.
The Green family and Hobby Lobby do not have any religious objection to birth control per se. Their plans have covered preventive contraceptives and will continue to do so," Duncan said.
"What Hobby Lobby objects to and the reason they sued is because the HHS mandate forces Hobby Lobby to include a specific kind of drug," he explained.
The drugs are called Plan B and Levonelle, otherwise known as "the morning-after pill" and "the week-after pill."
"For many people, [the pills] are not even considered birth control because the way they operate is to prevent the implantation of an egg in the womb. For millions of Americans that take the traditional Christian view that life begins at conception, that amounts to an early abortion," Duncan said.
Bone75
buster2010
Do you support Christians paying for Viagra seeing how many insurance companies will pay for it? Funny how you don't hear these "Christians" complaining about that.
Personally, I don’t support any policy that forces people to purchase a corporate product. But since you brought it up, Viagra doesn't kill fertilized eggs. You seem to be under the impression that this is about sex when it's not.
Flatfish
reply to post by Bone75
I totally disagree with you.
Screw em! For a party that advocates for getting government out of our business, they sure as hell are interested in retaining their own perceived right to get into our business.
Let them close their doors, I'm sure the other hobby stores around America will be more than happy to fill the gap.
Should an Islamic restaurant owner be forced to serve pork?
grey580
reply to post by Bone75
Oh my brain.
There's a zillion other regulations on the books in this country for businesses but somehow this one here is a deal breaker? BS.
And they are basing their decision on an assumption that someone "MIGHT" take one of these pills.
I find it highly ironic that these guys are using their first amendment right to take away the right of someone else to make a choice about their life.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Your rights do not give you the right to take away the rights of others. That your rights begin where my rights end and vice versa.
And this sets a precedent. Christians can say no to contraceptives. Now can Jews refuse to employ people because they aren't circumcised?edit on 3-2-2014 by grey580 because: (no reason given)
OccamsRazor04
Flatfish
reply to post by Bone75
I totally disagree with you.
Screw em! For a party that advocates for getting government out of our business, they sure as hell are interested in retaining their own perceived right to get into our business.
Let them close their doors, I'm sure the other hobby stores around America will be more than happy to fill the gap.
1. They aren't government.
2. They aren't getting into anyone's business. Unless you can show me where they ask such questions of people. Their employees can do whatever they want, they just don't want to pay for it.
buster2010
reply to post by Bone75
No Christian should be forced to pay for someone's contraception. Period.
But it's ok for an employer to force their religious beliefs on their employees huh? Do you support Christians paying for Viagra seeing how many insurance companies will pay for it? Funny how you don't hear these "Christians" complaining about that.
"What Hobby Lobby objects to and the reason they sued is because the HHS mandate forces Hobby Lobby to include a specific kind of drug," he explained.
The drugs are called Plan B and Levonelle, otherwise known as "the morning-after pill" and "the week-after pill."
"For many people, [the pills] are not even considered birth control because the way they operate is to prevent the implantation of an egg in the womb. For millions of Americans that take the traditional Christian view that life begins at conception, that amounts to an early abortion," Duncan said.
buster2010
Hoosierdaddy71
This is also a man that closes his stores on Sunday so that the employees can go to church with their families. Good for him for sticking to his beliefs.
Don't you mean lack of beliefs? His religion tells him he is not allowed to use contraceptives no where in the bible does it say he is not allowed to pay for someone else's contraceptives.
kosmicjack
reply to post by Flatfish
Agreed.
They aren't about liberty or morality..just politics and publicity . Do they care if their cash paying customers have had an abortion? I doubt it.
Close I say...put up or shut up.
They aren't preventing abortions. They just won't pay for them.