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Russian Bank Halts All Cash Withdrawals & Russia Bans Bitcoin.

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posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 06:41 PM
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Arnie123
wow...you guys seriously need to chill out.
As confident as you are that SHTF will happen, I'm just as confident that nothing will happen.
A few years will roll by and we will meet back up on ATS and their will be another thread on the same issue and ANOTHER few more years added, pfffff.
I smell fear mongers, my favorite animals. Yes, ANIMALS.
Not to say you shouldn't be prepared, that is everyday life.
But my account is good, I have not seen or heard anything as far as training in the STREETS and that is coming from the countries largest post.
Good looking out though, S&F for trying bud


Finally! I was wondering when someone would state the obvious. Honestly, some people clearly just get a hard on for the doom stuff like this.




posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 07:21 PM
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St0rD
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Has it ever been our money? I'm not so sure.

I wonder what could lead me to have trust in a bank one day... oh yeah that's right, nothing.

My father told me so many times in my lifetime to make money investment and even if he is right, I can't stop saying to myself how huge are the chances the market collapses in the next few years.

So why should I care?


edit on 30-1-2014 by St0rD because: typo



LOL. I watched that whole movie. That was awesome and very informative.



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 07:32 PM
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Arnie123
But my account is good, I have not seen or heard anything as far as training in the STREETS and that is coming from the countries largest post.
Good looking out though, S&F for trying bud







Need more?

Many more on youtube.

Peace



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 07:32 PM
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thebtheb

Arnie123
wow...you guys seriously need to chill out.
As confident as you are that SHTF will happen, I'm just as confident that nothing will happen.
A few years will roll by and we will meet back up on ATS and their will be another thread on the same issue and ANOTHER few more years added, pfffff.
I smell fear mongers, my favorite animals. Yes, ANIMALS.
Not to say you shouldn't be prepared, that is everyday life.
But my account is good, I have not seen or heard anything as far as training in the STREETS and that is coming from the countries largest post.
Good looking out though, S&F for trying bud


Finally! I was wondering when someone would state the obvious. Honestly, some people clearly just get a hard on for the doom stuff like this.


You cant posibly believe this? Although im definitely not a doom and gloom kind of person , its very apparent to anyone who has even a rudimentary knowledge of how the economy works, that the track we are going on cannot continue....something HAS to give, and looking at how our dollar is dropping and the fact that we hardly produce and export anything much anymore, that there is a huge issue....

We cant keep on this track and out of control spending.....its not sustainable....


So no I wouldnt go with the "nothings gonna happen" view point thats naive at best and could catch you dangerously unprepared....



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 07:48 PM
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One thing, BitCoin barely sneezed at this news, and is right where it was before the announcement. Pretty strong, this BitCoin, and to be a real currency, it requires stability in turmoil. Looks like it is starting to pass all of the tests.



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 07:57 PM
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charlyv
One thing, BitCoin barely sneezed at this news, and is right where it was before the announcement. Pretty strong, this BitCoin, and to be a real currency, it requires stability in turmoil. Looks like it is starting to pass all of the tests.


Actually the bitcoin market has been having huge swings and some gigantic drops in value over the last few years, the up and down drastic movement of that currency isnt a good thing....

Bitcoin value History Chart from Forbes

I wouldnt call that stable, not even close



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 08:04 PM
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Realtruth
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The only thing that is truly worth anything is people's sweat equity.
Don't believe me watch "The Creature from Jekyll Island" Edward G. Griffin on youtube.
And for the record, the financial system is not going to collapse, because the majority of the people worldwide believe in everything except themselves.


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100% Accurate on the only thing of value is people's time. All forms of currency are just markers for your time. Money does have another form of value though. By using currency as a marker for your time it allowed folks to specialize in one specific area. So you no longer had to spend all of your time finding/gathering/growing food or building your home. With currency you can become highly skilled in one particular area, get paid for your expertise and then use your pay to make up for your time shortfalls in the other areas such as food, etc. So money allowed us to advance as a civilization in that we would have never had scientists, artists, craftsmen and the like as they would have had to spend all of their time surviving.

Jekyll Island is a great book. Haven't seen the film, but I'm sure its on par with the book. All true and shocking how they plot to screw folks.

I do have to disagree with you on the financial collapse point. All we have to do is look at history to see that financial collapses have happened in the past many times and will happen in the future many times. The French Revolution was due to financial collapse. "Let them eat cake" and all that. The Russian Revolution. The Weimar Republic. The Great Depression in the US and more recently Greece just to name a few. Financial collapse happens for many different reasons but the result is usually the same. Once in the throes of a financial collapse you generally end up with a revolution and a return to solvency. The duration and severity may vary but blood is usually shed, leadership is usually completely ousted and often a return to nationalism is involved as part of the solution.

I guess I might be missing your point about why you think it won't happen here again, but I'd have to say that we are very close to a financial collapse in my opinion and we risk outright war with China because we continue to devalue our currency by constantly printing more. Great thoughts though. Thank you for sharing.



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 08:08 PM
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Any system that is set to be used along with usury will fail at some point, even bartering. There is a reason why our Father tells us that usury is evil and should not be practiced. We have proof of this now. We should listen to our Father.

Guess some just don't want to admit it.



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 08:09 PM
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Stability is a relative thing. I have been in it since close to the beginning. The wild swings made a lot of people rich, and lately it is not so easy to make money in that . That shows real strength, as it historically surpasses it's its lows and climbs back up to surpass or meet it's new highs.
I expect swings in the future, but I will bet that they will not be as drastic as it was last year.



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 08:09 PM
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DarksideOz
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As an Australian I can tell you here and now that this is happening. I recently had to pay a $4000 bill, but when I went to my financial institute, I was told I could only withdraw a maximum of $2000 cash in one day. I was also asked what I needed the money for. This money that I wanted was MY own savings and MY money. It was just sitting in their bank. Yet they act as if it is now their money and I have to justify whether I'm worthy or not of withdrawing my own money.

This is just further proof that all the money that people have in a certain bank isn't actually all there, and if everyone that had money in that bank then decided to all take out their savings, it would expose the banking fraud to even the most gullible of bankers. If the banks had the money that people have in their saving accounts, then there wouldn't be a need to put a limit on withdrawals from saving accounts. The system that they do this under is obviously a lot more in depth and [deliberately] complicated than I have just explained, but when you have a banking system that can approve a personal loan of $20,000 in under 24 hours, but take up to 5 days to clear a $50 personal or even Government cheque, then you know the whole system is corrupted in their favour.

Here in Australia it is also quite common to be fined under the title of an "early exit fee" if you are in a position to pay off a loan earlier than agreed to. I know a legal agreement is made, but since when should someone be fined and punished for being able to pay off a debt earlier than agreed too, later yes, but earlier ? I always had the belief that paying off a loan early was a good thing, but according to the banks its a breach of contract and therefore punishable by fine. So, miss one payment, they come after you and hit you with "late fees" and "interest", but pay off your loan earlier than agreed to and you get hit with an "early exit fee". But if you play the game their way and pay it on time every week until the loan is paid off, you now get hit with "admin fees" every month of the loan. Go into the bank to make a payment, you get hit with a "service fee". Withdraw money from the ATM and you pay a $2 "ATM fee", even if its just to check your account balance and not actually make a withdrawal.

I know some people might say that internet banking is an alternative to some of the things I mentioned, but that is just another tool being used to slowly condition people into accepting a cashless society. And if you think the banking system has us under control now, what do you think it will be like under a cashless society where they have full control over us ?


edit on 31-1-2014 by DarksideOz because: Spelling mistake !


Excellent points and exactly why fractional reserve banking is outright robbery and a giant Ponzi scheme. I didn't know that it was getting that bad in Australia. Thanks for the heads up Darkside! Good luck.



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 08:22 PM
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DarksideOz

combatmaster
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So when will TSHTF then??


I know this question wasn't asked to me, but if I can throw in my 2 cents......................
I truly no longer believe that everything will blow up in a SHTF scenario. I believe that TPTB have acknowledged that enough people have woken up to their game, and have now simply just changed the rules of the game to still achieve the same results in the long run, but appear less obvious in the short term.

What if, flicking small pieces of "S" at the fan at selective times, so it wasn't noticeable, still achieved the same long term goal of total control ? No need for an all out SHTF scenario which would put all the focus on the top end after it happened. Just flick enough smaller pieces at the right time, added with the patience to see out the plan, and you get the exact same outcome but without the heavy focus on them at the end. We will actually be blamed for contributing to, and collapsing any system they created.

And even if the "S" did hit the fan, you can be guaranteed that they will have a newer, better fan ready to replace the older one. And that newer fan will bring them even more power and even more control.


Completely plausible. As i stated in an earlier post and as others in this thread have stated, nobody can see the future. All we can do is parse the data that we have and try to make an educated guess as to what will happen. You are exactly right when you mention things happening in smaller "chunks" if you will. This has been happening for a few years now since the 2008 mortgage bubble. They have used quantitative easing as a way to lessen the impact but it doesn't seem to be working. Unemployment is still near record highs, the housing market is in the toilet, consumer credit is faltering and world currencies are on the wane. Without quantitative easing and the bank bailout the fan would have turned brown back in 2008. And yes TPTB are very smart, cunning people who are managing this crisis like they do all crises. Whatever the result is, you can bet that they knew it before any of this started. But honestly, regardless of how fast or slow it happens, we people of the Earth need to unite and devise a better system of life for all. Only then will we be free from the tyranny of the few. Thanks for chiming in!



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 08:36 PM
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Finally! I was wondering when someone would state the obvious. Honestly, some people clearly just get a hard on for the doom stuff like this.


I won't deny that some folks enjoy some doom porn, but if none of this interests you, why are you here? I think that most folks are seeing a series of events that they feel are leading to a negative outcome and looking for advice or looking to discuss their thoughts and fears with like-minded folks. The worst it will lead to is being prepared for whatever happens. Being prepared is just plain old-fashioned wisdom. For example, you may have never been in a car accident, but you still probably wear a seat belt and carry insurance. You are prepared in case you do get into an accident. Your house may have never burned down, but you still carry homeowners insurance. Again being prepared. Its ok to disagree and for my part, I welcome dissent. But to attack someone or a group for sharing their thoughts and opinions is a bit narrow-minded. Showing up to a party to complain about the host and his guests is not only rude but it makes you look a bit silly for showing up in the first place. All opinions are welcome and should be thoughtfully considered, but just showing up to hurl insults is a bit juvenile. In my opinion.



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 08:41 PM
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charlyv
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask
 

Stability is a relative thing. I have been in it since close to the beginning. The wild swings made a lot of people rich, and lately it is not so easy to make money in that . That shows real strength, as it historically surpasses it's its lows and climbs back up to surpass or meet it's new highs.
I expect swings in the future, but I will bet that they will not be as drastic as it was last year.



Stability is a relative thing now? I thought just a post up it was one of the reasons that bitcoin had such a great future.....

Point is if a currency isnt stable its not viable..........

The wild swings in bitcoin does not show strength, i dunno what kind of economic classes you took in College...

And you better believe they will be just as drastic if not more this year, for the simple fact that bitcoin is now better known, not only by the the populace at large but the GOVERNMENTS and banks of the world....

Look for bitcoin to be devalued to virtually nill.......

You wana place your bets on bitcoin thats great, me ill hold actually precious metals and other items such as food water and medicine to hold value for me......

Bitcoin assumes everything goes totally digital, its worth nothing if theres no infrastructure to keep it up, and assuming that infrastructure will always be around.....

Bitcoin is going to crash for the simple reason that those who decide on currencies, want it gone....

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posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 08:47 PM
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ManBehindTheMask

thebtheb

Arnie123
wow...you guys seriously need to chill out.
As confident as you are that SHTF will happen, I'm just as confident that nothing will happen.
A few years will roll by and we will meet back up on ATS and their will be another thread on the same issue and ANOTHER few more years added, pfffff.
I smell fear mongers, my favorite animals. Yes, ANIMALS.
Not to say you shouldn't be prepared, that is everyday life.
But my account is good, I have not seen or heard anything as far as training in the STREETS and that is coming from the countries largest post.
Good looking out though, S&F for trying bud


Finally! I was wondering when someone would state the obvious. Honestly, some people clearly just get a hard on for the doom stuff like this.


You cant posibly believe this? Although im definitely not a doom and gloom kind of person , its very apparent to anyone who has even a rudimentary knowledge of how the economy works, that the track we are going on cannot continue....something HAS to give, and looking at how our dollar is dropping and the fact that we hardly produce and export anything much anymore, that there is a huge issue....

We cant keep on this track and out of control spending.....its not sustainable....


So no I wouldnt go with the "nothings gonna happen" view point thats naive at best and could catch you dangerously unprepared....


Well said my friend. Sometimes I wonder why folks think we enjoy this stuff. Like most people, I have everything to lose and nothing to gain from gloom and doom. Great job, great kids, nice house, etc. So why on Earth would we want to throw all that hard work away? Makes no sense. I wish I didn't know all this stuff. It would be SO MUCH EASIER to not prepare and not care. I enjoy leisure activities as much as the next guy and I'd love to spend all of my "Free Time" doing something fun. I can't imagine enjoying the thought of people suffering on a mass scale. Boggles the mind. Good post bro.



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 08:59 PM
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thanks man, Im no guru by any means but I do watch and prepare, its better to be safe then sorry....

I enjoy your insights as well man, keep up the good work and keep an eye out, Like you Ive got a family and work my hands to the bone 6 days a week, I do well, but it does get tough sometimes, and like you say I dunno anyone who would actually WANT what we see coming to happen....

Thanks again sir



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 09:11 PM
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DarksideOz
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This is just further proof that all the money that people have in a certain bank isn't actually all there, and if everyone that had money in that bank then decided to all take out their savings, it would expose the banking fraud to even the most gullible of bankers. If the banks had the money that people have in their saving accounts, then there wouldn't be a need to put a limit on withdrawals from saving accounts.


Sorry, I know you just want to repeat the same old conspiracy everyone thinks about, but I have to point out a little bit of ignorance on your part.

Most banks allow us to access our money from anywhere. For example, I can withdraw money from any BofA in California, and I can also fly to Florida and withdraw money from any BofA there as well. So how can we expect all banks to have all of their customers' physical money at all locations at any moment? They would have to have every customers' total account balance at every single brick and mortar bank, which is impossible. They would have to have the total sum of all customers' balance multiplied by the number of physical bank locations they have, including ATM machines. They simply don't have that much physical money.

In order to provide this convenience of accessing our money from anywhere, they have to divide the money up between all their banks, and set limits to how much someone can physically cash out in one day (unless you ask for it in advance), as to provide others with a similar service as you. They have to physically manage how much physical money is at each bank.

You must not know how banks work or something?



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 09:13 PM
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jude11

Arnie123
But my account is good, I have not seen or heard anything as far as training in the STREETS and that is coming from the countries largest post.
Good looking out though, S&F for trying bud







Need more?

Many more on youtube.

Peace

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FAIL. ULTIMATE FAIL.
For starters, the military has drills...an when we have drills, we use BLANKS.
BlackHawks? lol, those are NOT black hawks, wow.
a lot of these youtube vids you linked are backed by paranoid fear mongering folks who have nothing better to do then spread disinfo on our military and their training.
Half of the videos are parked military vehicles, sooooo scary, I tremble with FEAR!!
Another is simply special forces training in conjunction with other agencies.
...AND ANOTHER is simply national guard driving through the city to get to their training ground.
I'm guessing you never lived on post?
Okay I'm going to let you in on something to ease your fears of parked military vehicles and fear mongering youtube videos made by paranoid anti military fanatics.
I am Military.
I have trained in those very drills.
I work battalion level in a heavy armored unit.
I see and hear house rattling shells everyday.
I disseminate information everyday that comes from higher.
I have seen war.
You, my fearful friend are a fool, responding with links to only a fools video on fooltube. Don't be so quick to jump on a negative bandwagon of fear mongering about harmless drills in city environments. We do after all have to be trained and ready in any environment...including urban combat, hence an asymetric war footing.
Good job on trying though, commended bruh.
S&F



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 09:26 PM
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Then why are you working with the police?

What good does that do in an invasion situation?

Do you expect to have the cooperation of the invaded nations police?

What good does a joint police and military operation hold and when would that be useful?



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 09:26 PM
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That was a great video, thanks for pointing out it's direction.



posted on Jan, 31 2014 @ 09:36 PM
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Another_Nut
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Then why are you working with the police?

What good does that do in an invasion situation?

Do you expect to have the cooperation of the invaded nations police?

What good does a joint police and military operation hold and when would that be useful?


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I'm not trying to be mean, but you must be incredibly dense if you can't see the obvious gains you get when working with other agencies.
The police are primarily for the people, so that military operations can be free of any persons who might get caught in the cross fire.
There are a variety of reasons, but one thing is for sure, once the military moves in, the police force comes SECOND. Mainly as a helping hand in directing people to safety.
Military drills are here to stay and its only going ramp up even more.
In case you haven't heard, there are massive military cuts and training in and around post is an economic choice.
I get the wide eye stares all the time as we drive through town in convoys of LMTVs and Strikers.
So, in a sense...get use to it.



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