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One of the strongest factors in straightening out General Patton's thinking on the conquered Germans was the behavior of America's controlled news media toward them. At a press conference in Regensburg, Germany, on May 8, 1945, immediately after Germany's surrender, Patton was asked whether he planned to treat captured SS troops differently from other German POW's. His answer was:
"No. SS means no more in Germany than being a Democrat in America -- that is not to be quoted. I mean by that that initially the SS people were special sons of bitches, but as the war progressed they ran out of sons of bitches and then they put anybody in there. Some of the top SS men will be treated as criminals, but there is no reason for trying someone who was drafted into this outfit . . ."
AngryCymraeg
Shiloh7
I prefer to stick with the census information relating to the actual number of Jews killed as the number that gets recycled and regurgitated again and again and again. It is important also to include all the different groups of people who suffered in the camps and who died across the areas involved in the war.
I am surprised that the German people don't speak out a little more about why the Jews were so unpopular in Germany. Perhaps once we might just get to the bottom of something an elderly German man tried to say before the interviewer nearly had a heart-attack and jumped down his throat. He merely said "They were trying to take over everything"
No one condones the Nazi policies whatsoever, but we only ever hear the Jewish side of what happened in Germany, we never hear them tell us why though? Its as though it is a taboo and perhaps its time to learn more in order to fully understand about the reasons and then, hopefully to put it to bed.
(Facepalm) Because they were blamed for the German defeat in the First World War. Despite the fact that the decision to ask for an Armistice was made by the Generals and the German politicians. It's called the Stab In The Back Myth. And that's all it is - a myth. The Jews were an easy minority to blame. They weren't in charge of the country, they were a scapegoat. And the 'they were trying to take over everything' is a Nazi myth.
AngryCymraeg
Tusks
reply to post by AmenStop
Yes the picture is of civilian German war dead.
The fire bombing of the civilian city of Dresden with 700,000 phosphorus bombs, killing more people than Hiroshima or Nagasaki, and in the last month of the war, was a war crime of the first order. Churchill was knighted for it. Kurt Vonnegut was there as a POW and wrote a novel about it--"Slaughterhouse 5.
Churchill was not knighted for the bombing of Dresden. He was knighted in 1953. As for Dresden, at most 25,000 people were killed there, according to the latest studies. The bombing of Hiroshima cost the lives of around 80,000 people and that of Nagasaki another 60,000, with thousands more dying of radiation sickness in the months afterwards.
Xtrozero
buster2010
talk about pushing propaganda. Even the 1.5 million cannot be proven not to mention it is mathematically impossible to kill that many people in the way it was claimed to have happened. And yes the number was inflated because it was totally made up. And the there would be no Jews left on the planet is also BS because Hitler had no problem with them leaving and going to Palestine in fact he shipped enough supplies and equipment to start a new nation.
I guess the question is why do you care so much? Have you put the same effort into whether the 4 to 6 million killed in Darfur is inflated, or the 10s of million by Stalin, or the 3 plus million by Pol Pot? Is this you life's goal to turn these tragedies into a numbers game void of any thought of the suffering caused?
Xtrozero
From that report it was estimated that 6000 Jews/undesirables per day could be gassed and processed. That is over 150k per month...
Was this the works of the Zionist?
When everybody is inside, the heavy doors are closed. Then there is a short pause, presumably to allow the room temperature to rise to a certain level, after which SS men with gas masks climb on the roof, open the traps, and shake down a preparation in powder form out of tin cans labeled "CYKLON" "For use against vermin," which is manufactured by a Hamburg concern. It is presumed that this is a "CYANIDE" mixture of some sort which turns into gas at a certain temperature. After three minutes everyone in the chamber is dead. No one is known to have survived this ordeal, although it was not uncommon to discover signs of life after the primitive measures employed in the Birch Wood. The chamber is then opened, aired, and the "special squad" carts the bodies on flat trucks to the furnace rooms where the burning takes place. "
8675309jenny
So the whole world is trained and educated: NEVER FORGET. 6 MILLION DIED. NEVER FORGET. 6 MILLION DIED. YOU MUST CARE.
And then when the numbers are DRASTICALLY reduced at various camps your reply is "WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH??"
WOW
projectbane
Did you know that more children have been killed through abuse and malnutrition and sex slavery around the world since the war than supposed Jews died during the holocaust. No one makes documentaries on that anywhere near as much like the do the holocaust. No one cares even a quarter as much as what happened to the Jews.
Im bored of it. And I just don't care at all. What was "done" is done some time ago now and MOVE on!
ufoorbhunter
The holocaust was not only a Nazi effort. Many Jews were also murdered by Soviet aligned forces. My Hungarian friend told me how as a boy he secretly watched the murder of thousands of Jews by machine guns. The Soviet forces did it, then put out news that the crime had been committed by the Germans! Makes one wonder how many times this happened in the east
luckey1962
They had jewish ghettos in old rome. They crammed like thousands of people in a 9 block area back in 1400's. Just despicable.
Human0815
One more Time:
The Number, the Religion, Race, the Origin, Color,
the Iq, the political Ideology, etc. of the Victims
is not that important,
but that all this People was our Neighbors, Colleagues,
Teacher, Meds, Employees, etc. and Friends
and not many of us done enough to stop the Holocaust!
The Holocaust happened in a Society of mostly normal
and average People,
in the middle of Europe
and this we need to remember.
To look, search or calculation of Numbers is small-minded!edit on 2-2-2014 by Human0815 because: a "a"
Tusks
luckey1962
They had jewish ghettos in old rome. They crammed like thousands of people in a 9 block area back in 1400's. Just despicable.
I have seen it written that ghettos were actually the self imposed living conditions of certain religious Jews. Also have seen it written that they were imposed upon the Jews by non-Jews. Anybody know for sure?
I have seen it written that ghettos were actually the self imposed living conditions of certain religious Jews. Also have seen it written that they were imposed upon the Jews by non-Jews. Anybody know for sure?
The concept of shtetl culture is used as a metaphor for the traditional way of life of 19th-century Eastern European Jews. Shtetls are portrayed as pious communities following Orthodox Judaism, socially stable and unchanging despite outside influence or attacks. The Holocaust resulted in the disappearance of the vast majority of shtetls, through both extermination under Nazi occupation and exodus to the United States and Israel — as well as to the main cities of Russia, open to Jewish habitation since the fall of the Tsarist regime.
ufoorbhunter
The holocaust was not only a Nazi effort. Many Jews were also murdered by Soviet aligned forces. My Hungarian friend told me how as a boy he secretly watched the murder of thousands of Jews by machine guns. The Soviet forces did it, then put out news that the crime had been committed by the Germans! Makes one wonder how many times this happened in the east
Human0815
One more Time:
The Number, the Religion, Race, the Origin, Color,
the Iq, the political Ideology, etc. of the Victims
is not that important,
but that all this People was our Neighbors, Colleagues,
Teacher, Meds, Employees, etc. and Friends
and not many of us done enough to stop the Holocaust!
The Holocaust happened in a Society of mostly normal
and average People,
in the middle of Europe
and this we need to remember.
To look, search or calculation of Numbers is small-minded!edit on 2-2-2014 by Human0815 because: a "a"
favouriteslave
Antisemitism has been alive and well since