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originally posted by: Logarock
This isn't good. Doesn't sound like you. Sounds like one of those pat canned deals! Naturally everyone is not going to agree. One theory is never as good as another except at a dead end. We all have to believe that or there is no need to go on.
originally posted by: beansidhe
a reply to: Ramcheck
Wow, that's a kind of in-your-face-site, is it not (might explain my hook nose though, lol!)?
These beliefs, these 'myths' people carry are so important to us, because they are prevalent and because they mean something to the people who passed them on to their children. You know, I was reading last night again, more from Ralston McLeod (who was and still might be a professor of Celtic studies at Glasgow Uni) about how the Vatican have documents pertaining to the Virgin Mary's bones being buried under a Welsh church in Anglesey.
It's a long story, but basically there used to be pilgrimages there by early saints. One priest tried to investigate and took it to the Vatican and they were enraged by him. He was in disgrace and put out the church, but he vowed that he had read enough to be certain. The Vatican had recently announced that the ascension of Mary was real -she'd gone up to heaven, so there were no bones, so they were just infuriated by this fellow who was showing them up.
He lost his job, his dignity, his reputation because the facts he read were not in agreement with the Vatican's opinion.
I'm going back to read more of that blog you linked
Male deer of all species (except the Chinese water deer) and female reindeer grow and shed new antlers each year, thereby differing from such permanently horned animals as antelope, which are in the same order as deer and may be superficially similar.
The word "deer" was originally broader in meaning, but became more specific over time. In Middle English, der (Old English dēor) meant a wild animal of any kind. This was as opposed to cattle, which then meant any sort of domestic livestock that was easy to collect and remove from the land,
Venison originally described meat of any game animal killed by hunting, and was applied to any animal from the families Cervidae (deer), Leporidae (hares), and Suidae (wild pigs), and certain species of the genus Capra (goats and ibex),
originally posted by: angelchemuel
originally posted by: urbanghost
a reply to: Logarock
Yea the Welsh still say or ask on occasion if one is a comrade
I'm a 45 year old Welshman and have never heard anyone say that in wales.
I'm Welsh (north) and never heard it either....and I'm just over 50!
This god, known as ‘Cernunnos’, whose name according to Miranda Green in her Dictionary of Celtic Myth and Legend means ‘horned or peaked one’, is depicted usually with antlers on his head, and sometimes with the ears of a stag. He often holds a snake or ram-horned snake. He is seated in a lotus or cross-legged pose reminiscent of the gods from the Indian subcontinent.
The significance of the early appearance of the ibex lies in the symbolic message which this animal clearly carried: Samarran ware consistently shows this caprid with long, branch-like antlers (1).3 That these antlers represent the so-called Tree of Life or Sacred Tree is shown by a further example, this time from the Iranian Plateau, c4500 BC, in which the antler-trees dominate the entiremotif (2). In other words, the ibex—in both the North Mesopotamian and the Iranian plateaux—arrives full-blown onto the stage carrying an already well-developed symbol of fertility.
originally posted by: beansidhe
a reply to: zardust
Now that is interesting. We touched on it earlier, when we were thinking about constellations. If I remember rightly, he has the boar and deer both as constellations, which we don't have now.
There was something I read very recently which cited Twrch Trwyth, the boar in the King Arthur (II) stories as representing a constellation. It's one of those things which is in the 'possibly' camp in my head right now, but there's other deer possibilities too. Diana (moon goddess) is represented by a deer, for example.
The fact you've come to this by your own path is definitely worth noting though - it adds to it's validity. I thought you might enjoy his site!