Deciphering the Pagan Stones

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posted on Apr, 18 2014 @ 04:03 PM
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a reply to: PonderingSceptic

Thank you, I will look into Rosales' book, definitely.

The Runic Calendar

The Runic calendar, in Kiev, (in above link - I can't upload photos on this new ATS format?) uses Futhark runes like Scandinavia, more connections with Baltic tribes and Norse culture - and probably our Picts too.
The destruction and suppression of these histories, to further a particular 'religion', is nothing short of criminal, in my opinion.




posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 07:59 AM
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a reply to: beansidhe

By the way could you kindly post the particular Pict stone that has what looks like an anchor on it? I found some coins with anchors plus some anchors in places that have nothing to do with the ocean or sea even to modern times. Its use is apparently somewhat esoteric and abstract.



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 10:26 AM
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a reply to: Logarock

No problem Log, I'll do that as soon as I find it. Back soon!



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 12:30 PM
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Top RHS




posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 04:17 PM
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Just a couple of things -

The Negau Inscriptions have caused some controversy, found on a helmet amongst a hoard of artifacts in Slovenia. The helmet comes from 50BC and has celtic writing inscribed around the rim:





This is the article it comes from, and you might really enjoy this website, Pondering Sceptic. It was linked earlier but it's worth repeating.

Baltic Celts/Negau Inscriptions

I also came across this site, and although it's quite hard to navigate it's a good source for reference. No photos, but it lists every inscription on 'Celtic' stones found in Britain and France.

Celtic Inscribed Stones Project



posted on Apr, 19 2014 @ 04:47 PM
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a reply to: beansidhe


There is a larger example if not mistaken.



posted on Apr, 20 2014 @ 01:50 AM
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a reply to: beansidhe

There were trade routes going through the area from North to Black sea and from there to Middle East. During Roman times there were additional two trade routes with Rome through Baltic sea.
Suppression isn't gone. Scepter of Gediminas and Vaidevucio flag are reminders of far away past, and numerous other. Officially there were no runes.



posted on Apr, 20 2014 @ 04:10 AM
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a reply to: Logarock

That's not the one that came to mind either - I'll go back and look again



posted on Apr, 20 2014 @ 06:22 AM
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From the Wemyss caves - this is what I was thinking of:




posted on Apr, 20 2014 @ 02:28 PM
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While looking for an anchor symbol, I was wondering if this was what you meant ( /I LHS) but decided you probably didn't.



However, that little symbol -which I haven't ever noticed before-takes us deep into conspiracy land.
I was looking through the Barddas earlier on, and got quite caught up in it. It was written by Iolo Morganwg, who was the writer at the centre of Alan's Wilson's claim. Iolo Morganwg is claimed by most of academia to have been a hoaxer who made up the Barddas in 1862, whilst taking bits and pieces from earlier sources. Wilson disputes this, and says Morganwg has been deliberately smeared and discredited.

Full text of the Barddas

Morganwg discusses this very symbol:




Why is it not right that a man should commit the Name of God to vocalization, and the sound of language and tongue?
Because it cannot be done without misnaming God, for [p.20 p.21] no man ever heard the vocalization of His Name, and no one knows how to pronounce it; but it is represented by letters, that it may be known what is meant, and for Whom it stands. Formerly signs were employed, namely, the three elements of vocal letters. However, to prevent disrespect and dishonour to God, a Bard is forbidden to name Him, except inwardly and in thought.
Pray, my beloved and discreet teacher, show me the signs that stand for the Name of God, and the manner in which they are made.
Thus are they made;―the first of the signs is a small cutting or line inclining with the sun at eventide, thus, / the second is another cutting, in the form of a perpendicular, upright post, thus, I and the third is a cutting of the same amount of inclination as the first, but in an opposite direction, that is, against the sun, thus and the three placed together, thus, . But instead of, and as substitutes for these, are placed the three letters O I W.


And so /I is the symbol of the unpronouncable God. Either the pict stone is showing what Iolo Morganwg claims the Druids wrote, or it is a coincidence, or a 19th century forger has inscribed the pict stone in the hope someone, someday will mistakenly identify it as a Druid's mark.


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posted on Apr, 20 2014 @ 04:48 PM
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originally posted by: beansidhe


Thus are they made;―the first of the signs is a small cutting or line inclining with the sun at eventide, thus, / the second is another cutting, in the form of a perpendicular, upright post, thus, I and the third is a cutting of the same amount of inclination as the first, but in an opposite direction, that is, against the sun, thus and the three placed together, thus, . But instead of, and as substitutes for these, are placed the three letters O I W.


Hi Beans - Doesn't the description above form an upward pointing arrowhead? /I \ ?
I may have misread? Is that the symbol you're talking about?
(I'm playing catch-up here!!)
G



posted on Apr, 21 2014 @ 04:53 AM
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a reply to: Gordi The Drummer

Yes, that's right - it does look like an arrow head. It would be disrespectful to say God's name out loud, as it wouldn't be pronounced right and therefore not his name. So they substituted the three lines for the letters O I V/W as a representation instead.
I think that's what's on this stone. And if it is, and we accept Iolo's work, then that is really telling us a whole lot about the nature of these stones!!!



posted on Apr, 21 2014 @ 06:49 AM
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...but YOU just said Gordi??? Does typing out loud not count??? LOL



posted on Apr, 21 2014 @ 07:15 AM
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originally posted by: beansidhe

And so /I is the symbol of the unpronouncable God. Either the pict stone is showing what Iolo Morganwg claims the Druids wrote, or it is a coincidence, or a 19th century forger has inscribed the pict stone in the hope someone, someday will mistakenly identify it as a Druid's mark.




Or it may prove that the Druids came out of the corrupted order of Israelitish priests that also maintained the idea. These priests took up with the oak grove ect and tried to incorporate this in with Yahweh worship. As they did with Baal and many other things. Several important attributes follow these people down through history. One is the notation made time and again about their tribal 10/12 divisions of leadership in their societies be it in Thrace or Italy for example, holding important state and tribal meetings in the groves, their noted association with the "thunder god" even called by some as the "thunder people", white robed priest, ect. There is more, not so flattering associations.





 
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