EU Military slaughtering hundreds of unarmed civilians - VIDEO

Originally posted by devilwasp
umm dude i respect you but really socialist and comunisnt are not evil.
mabye the gov gave those orders or mabye the military did.
mabye the military comander there got a little jumpy?

Well, tell that to all the people living under communist regimes, and those that have died because of communism. Anyways, the point is that because this is happening to a country that is socialist, you won't see any protests being done by all those countries that always keep bashing the U.S. government. Do you see any protests being formed by groups of "liberals", "socialists" or "communists"?

Where is ANWSER International, and other organizations when you need them?.......

Originally posted by MattMarriott
There is one basic asset that defines an independent nation : the constitution.

- Oh wise up and get real.

For a start and most fundamentally it totally depends what the terms of this 'constitution' actually are.
Duuuuuh!

You clearly have no idea how the EU Commission or the EU actually works.

I suppose that is not really surprising because you appear to have fixed ideas about what a 'constitution' actually is.

Yet another American - wrongly - insisting the EU and it's arrangements are, sort of, like the USA's?

The EU has one since November 29, 2004.
So loss of sovereignty of each country that was already a fact before ...

- currency being printed by the EU central bank

- A central bank with which all the national governments have significant input, sharing sovereignty to the collective and thereby exerting greater actual influence and 'sovereignty' because of this mutually beneficial sharing.

By the way; you might ask yourself why the members of the Euro freely joined this enterprise and how come they also put years - decades! - of enormous effort into it's creation.

- EU comission with the power to impose whatever sanctions on whatever of its "countries" (provinces)
- EU comission with the power to veto whatever laws passed by the "parliament" of any of these "countries"
- EU comission with the power to impose whatever laws to the "parliament" of any of these "countries"

- OK. That's a highly interesting (but completely wrong and false) theory and 'reading' of the technicalities of how things work.
Now show us how the Commission has ever done this in any way whatsoever.
You can't because it has not and will not ever happen.
The instant the Commission attempted to try this they would be called to account by the Heads of State and the EU Parliament.

The one time the EU commission attempted to 'force' a (new) pan-EU law was in the 1980's with a power limit on large motorcycles.
The Nation States and the EU parliament wouldn't have it and the Commission was forced to back down and scrap the idea.

That was on something pretty trivial for most......and you really think the Commission (which has just been renewed and already forced to conceed to the will of the EU Parliament) can "impose" or "veto" in this way on 'big' issues!?

You are dead wrong.

The idea is utterly laughable.

... is now CONSTITUTIONALLY sanctioned.

- The constitution (for anyone that can bother to read any of it for themselves (as opposed to being told by the bulk of media and people with an anti-EU agenda) is all about empowering the individual and extending the individual's rights.

This idea of the dictatorial monolithic EU is, frankly, the product of ignorance and could hardly be further from the truth.

.....and you are still perpetuating a downright lie in this post spouting off crap about an "EU military". That is utterly at odds with the reality of the situation



[edit on 22-11-2004 by sminkeypinkey]

Originally posted by rowsdower
i dont think it is really fair to yell at the frogs for shooting the crowd, who knows maybe it was a mistake or maybe it was french supplied government soldiers who did it or maybe we are not seeing the entire picture, perhapes individuals in the crowd were shooting at the french soldiers (if they were french). I think it was an honost mistake (a very very very bad mistake, people died, and the soldiers who did it should be severly punished) In iraq americans have mistakenly shot and killed civilians thinking they were shooting at them. battle is very choatic.

Did the news article mention that French forces were killed? This sort of thing is what you would expect from China, Cuba, or any of the other dictatorships in the world, not from French forces.

The French are not fighting in the Ivory Coast like the coalition forces are fighting in Iraq, so that is not a very good argument. The French are not at war with terrorists, these people in the Ivory Coast were not armed.

damn, anybody see the guy with his head blown off? it looked like the robot in terminator 2 when arnold shot him in the head with the shot gun. That was insane

Its pretty gory, not for anybody of the faint of heart or young, plus theirs a bit of nudity so i'd say for the younger ones not too watch.

Originally posted by devilwasp
i think something happened at the front of the line.
mabye some one attacked a jumpy soldier and it got out of hand.
thats one bad point of putting the military in control of civies.

If this were the case would you not expect after the shooting assistance would be rendered. No, they just rolled out of town not even once climbing off their vehicles.
And no, it is not in the News.

I don't know where it is coming from? Here is more though.

radioci.embaci.com...

[edit on 22-11-2004 by Polar Bear]

Originally posted by Muaddib


Well, tell that to all the people living under communist regimes, and those that have died because of communism. Anyways, the point is that because this is happening to a country that is socialist, you won't see any protests being done by all those countries that always keep bashing the U.S. government. Do you see any protests being formed by groups of "liberals", "socialists" or "communists"?

Where is ANWSER International, and other organizations when you need them?.......

there is no comunist country.
uhh dude i am slightly left in the political parties and i dont approve of mindless killing this shouldnt have happened but i am just trying to put this puzzle together.

Originally posted by Polar Bear


If this were the case would you not expect after the shooting assistance would be rendered. No, they just rolled out of town not even once climbing off their vehicles.
And no, it is not in the News.

I don't know where it is coming from? Here is more though.

radioci.embaci.com...

[edit on 22-11-2004 by Polar Bear]

why is there only 1 french flag?
in ever film i see of forces there is always a few vehicles running around with a flag on it.
mabye, mabye not though.
sometimes they are under orders not to take prisnors or assit wounded.
still the diffrent levels of equipment seems to be more...mercenary like.

wat a great way to start the day see a decapitaded carcas! looks almost identical to iraq, except for not as much uniformity in the insurgance.

Okay .... so France is mowing down civilians and decapitating them.
And in the MSM we hear .... *crickets* NOTHING.

One American soldier shoots a dead insurgant to be sure that
the insurgant isn't setting up a trap (traps that go against the
rules of engagement) like the insurgants have been doing ... and
the MSM and Europe are all over the one soldier, pointing fingers,
yelling WAR CRIMES!

Sickening hypocrites.

I know that its not easy to capture images from a video source, but if someone could show some pictures of the soldiers it would help to identify them.

This is the closest the camera gets to the soldiers. These were the last group left behind after several armored vehicles and troop transports had already left the area.
Further enlargement will cause loss of image quality.


[edit on 2004/11/23 by wecomeinpeace]

Yes, it looks like a French vehicle, like this, so it looks like that they are French (and not EU) troops.

any reason for the shooting yet???

i saw the video and i think that these people were doing something in large numbers but what???

any ideas???

i will get some vid caps from the vids, of the soldiers and their vehicles. so that they can be identified (which country)

here they are, this is the best i could do with the limited resources i have.

pic 1
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pic 5
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pic 9

i dont have a clue where these troops are from, so i will not speculate.

[edit on 11-24-2004 by ausconspiracies]

Sorry I didn't see this thread when I started my own topic (although I did some search).


The soldiers are French peacekeeping forces.

The country is Ivory Coast.

the vehicle shown in picture nine of the above post is undeniably a french VBL Panhard lite armoured vehicle. the french flag on the other vehicles is another small clue. these vehicles are also operated by the french backed government military of Sierra Leone. if you bwant more info on the incident just google "france ivory coast" or anything related to the french military and you will come up with numerous sites reporting this particular incident. i wouldnt have thought these sites will carry the video, i dont know why anyone would want to watch it any way.

p.s. this is the FRENCH military, not the EU. as an EU member i am not happy to be linked with this reaction from the french army.

Originally posted by BadRuski
Sorry I didn't see this thread when I started my own topic (although I did some search).


The soldiers are French peacekeeping forces.

The country is Ivory Coast.

Peace Keeping, your joking right. You slaughter 200 women and children. On a good day and you term that Peace Keeping.

Think Again,

POLAR BEAR

Originally posted by Polar Bear
Peace Keeping, your joking right. You slaughter 200 women and children. On a good day and you term that Peace Keeping.

Well, acording to Reuters those women and children you see in the video are "violent mob rioting"...

ABIDJAN (Reuters) - French soldiers deployed in Ivory Coast to help evacuate expatriates...

Why has this gone unreported by any of the major news network here in the UK!?

Surely such a barbaric act deserves to be aired and let the entire world know what French "peacekeeping" forces have done to the Ivory Coast civilian population.

Ok, why isn't this action being ridiculed by the rest of the world? If this was a US task force, we'd be getting reamed!!! Is it because we aren't a socialist country? (thank god)

I really think that may be the case.

Secondly, I'm sorry but France is in the EU and that means the EU and France and the UN should have to answer to this crap. Many of you know that I am already biased to the UN (as my link in my sig. will prove) but this is just backing my assertion that the UN isn't doing what it was set up to do!

Where are all the liberal socialistic protesters at?

[edit on 24-11-2004 by LostSailor]