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reply to post by dlbott
It seems odd that some of the bodies were there so long and were not eaten on by predators also.
Not odd at all. There isnt a Siberian predator that will eat frozen food. At deep winter above the snow line its common for bodies.to.remain untouched.
Are you nuts, these tigers have been found high in Himalaya mtns as well as Siberia, when they kill large prey they will eat sixty to seventy pounds the first night. They will bury carcass as do other big cats. They will return to feed over the next few days until gone and yes this means eating the frozen meat.
This is one of the reasons why almost every zoo that has these tigers will give them a frozen meat snack to the tigers. They love it and it does take them back to the wild. All high altitude cats, such as snow leopards and even puma in the states eat frozen carcass prey.
You simply don't know what you are talking about. Turn on animal planet or national geographic and watch them do it in the wild. I have personally watched two mountain lions eat a frozen elk in Colorado. This is natural high altitude cat activity.
Think about it, common sense tells you they have no choice.
Some settlers specifically spoke of the wind that rushed through the prairie, which was loud, forceful, and alien compared to what settlers had experienced in their former lives.
It's funny that you posted this today.
Just yesterday I watched an indy film called "Devil's Pass" on Netflix. It's one of those found shaky footage films that seem to be all the rage.
A group of students follow the trail of the original hikers to the pass and the shakiness ensues. Anyway they managed to link the Dyatlov Pass incident with the Philadelphia Experiment and the Mothman phenomena. Lols.
I watched it because the Dyatlov mystery has always fascinated me. It's not a terrible film but it made me chuckle quite a bit.
Back on topic
I'm not buying the infra noise theory. It doesn't explain the radiation readings or the injuries.
It could also be simply explained by an avalanche, they are good for breaking bones.
Animals like to eat eyes and lips.
And people dying of hypothermia tend to experience a feeling of being warm, which could explain some of the naked people.
Just something to think about, the simplest explanations are usually the correct ones.
I would think animals in this cold if they ate anything would eat the rest. Also their teeth marks would be evident.
This part is interesting
Transcript of an official interrogation of medical doctor B.A. Vozrojdenny by L.N. Ivanov about injuries of Nikolay Thibeaux-Brignolle.
Question: "What could have caused injuries that Nikolay Thibeaux-Brignolle suffered?"
Answer: "He could have been thrown down from a height of a grown man. He might have slipped and fell. However veer deep fracture of the skull base suggests that his injuries are similar to a victim that was dropped with a great speed and strength from a quickly moving car."
Question: "Could we assume that he was hit by a rock that was held by another man?"
Answer: "In this case we would see damaged soft tissue and we don't see that on the body"
from the autopsy link from AliceBleachWhite
On mention of the pieces of metal commented on that were supposedly found at the site at the time, in addition to the mysterious lights, these led me to the following:
Soviet Aircraft 1950 - 59
Out of these aircraft, which may have been deployed and active in the area, and out of those, which had capability to drop FLARES and CHAFF countermeasures?
I was invited to an air show once, and one of the jets that performed some very low only hundreds of feet high above runway flyby maneuvers was supposedly an old Soviet Fighter jet.
Suffice to say, the whole event, that jet as well, was probably the loudest spectacle I've ever experienced. If it weren't for separation of distance, I could claim a shuttle launch as being the loudest, but, in actual decibel proximity and loudness, the air show with the old Soviet Fighter jet included was the loudest thing I've ever experienced.
Something like one of those jets making a low altitude overflight, dropping chaff, and flares (performing an exercise?), as well as triggering an avalanche due the very real physically felt volume such jets can produce could account for the confusion caused (extremely loud events can have psychological effect), the supposed metal found, the supposed spooky lights seen from a distance, as well as giving us an activator for an avalanche event would give us a mundane and seemingly plausible explanation.
If anyone finds problems with this, then, please, by all means put them forward.
It was here I came across a victim of CIVD (not part of our expedition, a local who had fallen into water via an ice hole). Cold Induced Vaso-Dilation. You want to know what happened? this person stripped off all of their clothes (paradoxical warming) and was violent. VERY violent. A nasty side effect of CIVD is that the person suffering it feels they are absolutely in total utter control of their faculties and every one else is insane.
We had to tie this person into a sleeping bag system. That's how violent they were until warmed through.
So - aliens? no. These people suffered terrible deaths at natures hands through what I feel is a sad culmination of unrelated events that led to panic and abandoning relative safety.
The other odd thing? The guy with the burns. Charring on his socked foot and upside the head? How did that come about? My imagination has trouble there... I first thought maybe that supported a partial avalanche which collapsed and partially buried the tent. *snip*
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
Wow... Lightning?? That had never occurred to me. Never even crossed my mind... I wonder if it crossed anyone else's? In terms of that mixed with snow? Hmmm... I suppose it must be possible, since I've been in two "thunder snowstorms" in Missouri since I moved here. The weirdest thing to hear thunder with snow ...but nature is a weird one at times. Thunder means lightning tho, somewhere, right?
Now of course, lightning doesn't begin to touch a good number of the factors as we understand the basics here. Still.. Hmm.. That's just a very interesting angle. What would they have done if their tent had taken a lightning strike direct? Would the Russians have recognized it for what it was, after the events that left the tent in the photographed condition?
I'm not sure it plays in here? Shoot..I can't say it COULDN'T though, either?? I can only say you've actually left me boggled and stumped. That isn't an everyday thing!edit on 28-12-2013 by Wrabbit2000 because: (no reason given)
It says the socks are burnt. It doesn't say the foot is. Likewise, it says the hair is burnt, it doesn't say the head or the skin under it is. Are those the burn references you were looking at?
the left foot had burnt socks (marked by 13). No footwear.
- hair are burned on the right side of the head