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I posted the body location map here, but that's not really a very accurate description of the body locations:
Anyway, just pondered this pic for a bit, may be stretching the pareidolia aspect a touch, but I will put it out there so you can see what I think it could possibly be.
But of course it could be anything else, but what?
Was it an unintended pic, or a deliberate pic that did not turn out?
Dyatlov’s friends have looked into whether the deaths might have been caused by an avalanche. Setting up the camp on the slope might have disturbed the snow above, causing it to tumble down a few hours later. This would explain the ripped tent, which the skiers would have had to cut open to exit.
Six former rescuers and 31 independent experts gathered Friday in Yekaterinburg to look for answers about the incident. They concluded that the military had been carrying out tests in the area and had inadvertantly caused the deaths.
tsingtaowho sleeps half naked in that environment?
SonoftheSunBut this part of the text also has me questioning... :
"They concluded that the military had been carrying out tests in the area and had inadvertantly caused the deaths."
SonoftheSun Welcome to ATS, plopmop !
Good job. Thanks for the diagram of the avalanche board. This is the only thing I can think of from your explanation missing from the Russian documentary, but pretty much the rest of it matches, except your'e one body count off. It helps me understand how the snow may have caused the injuries, because at first, looking at the small amount of snow on the tent, it didn't seem like enough snow to cause just severe injuries. I'm still slightly unsure, but it's not implausible.
I have signed up to ATS only to share my thoughts about that mystery. I read a lot about this incident and maybe I have an explanation how this could happen, maybe I am wrong:
- There was no avalanche but an avalanche board
The first two with less cloth died there already from hypothermia. The left six realized that this spot and this fire won’t rescue them.
Here is a "movie", a documentary, giving the same explanation you gave, in part 2, except I don't remember them showing the illustration of the snow board, but they also referred to something other than "avalanche", they called it a "snow slide", but that's in English translated subtitles; I can't understand the spoken Russian.
I would like to see a movie with this course of action.
The documentary said something similar. They mentioned that there were such theories but said that they would not repeat them. They did mention the UFO/orbs but pointed out the dates didn't match because the skiiers dies aboutnd the 1st or 2nd and the orbs were seen on the 17th, so the dates don't match, and anyway they suspect it was more likely to be a rocket test on the 17th, than aliens.
I forgot to mention ...
- Sorry about the missing aliens, infrasound or covered military operations or spies.
The den was made by surviving four members of the Dyatlov group 70- 75 meters from the cedar in a ravine that was hidden from cold winds. It was probably an idea of Zolotarev. It was a common way to survive winters at the front and given the circumstances it offered the best chance for survival for those who remained behind waiting in hope that their three friends will make it to the top of the mountain.
It further undermines the theory of paradox undressing. The group clearly realized their threats and did everything they could to preserve themselves. Cedar branches were brought here and laid out to minimize contact of human bodies and cold snow underneath. Furthermore Ludmila Dubinina had sweater and pants of Krivonischenko. Both as it turned out had radiation present on them.
However the strangeness of the case was not resolved. In fact it became more weird. All, but three members had significant damage to their bones. They were crushed with immense force. Doctors compared the extend of the damage to being hit by a car. A second thing that is striking about the den is that bodies were actually found few feet from their improvised shelter in the deep part of the ravine on the area of only 4 square meters. Some of the clothes that were taken from bodies left underneath the cedar tree were placed on the cedar branches, but apparently they were not used.
Maybe the three who died on their way back to the tent had helped the injured build the shelter? Also the fourth uninjured person who died with the three injured in the ravine almost certainly built the shelter even if the injured were unable to do much.
Very good job! Still a few odd things. What about the ones found in the ravine, they had made shelter, but THEN they were crushed? Could they have built the shelter while already injured this way?
I learned more about the radiation. If there was fallout in the area from nuclear tests, that could have been concentrated in the stream and then when the stream water evaporated from their clothes it could have concentrated radiation in the clothing. It wasn't very concentrated, just somewhat above background, and I think evaporation from the clothes could do this. Nobody ever mentions the radioactive clothes were found partially in the stream. See the Russian documentary in my previous post, where they talk about the radioactive clothes in the stream and the uneven distribution of radioactivity.
Plus why were they no longer inside the shelter when found? And we have to assume then that the radiation was from their work and not important.
ImagewerxI guess by "avalanche board" you are referring to what we call a "snow slide",i.e. a small and localised avalanche without the power and speed of a full sized one because it doesn't start much higher up the mountain where there's nothing to stop it from gaining momentum?
pretty much the rest of it matches, except your'e one body count off.
Char-LeeWhat about the ones found in the ravine, they had made shelter, but THEN they were crushed? Could they have built the shelter while already injured this way? Plus why were they no longer inside the shelter when found?
Bodies were carefully laid side by side
Thanks. I think plopmop did an excellent job explaining a very plausible theory.
I think you have done an amazing job explaining every point.
Yes the coroner's report seems to suggest the heart was still beating when the tongue was removed. If you consider the severe state of hypothermia, and even signs of frostbite, I think even if the coroner's report is right, they probably didn't have enough movement ability due to frostbite and hypothermia to "shoo" the animal away and they might have even been unconscious while their tongue was being eaten, though I am curious what animal might have done it. If I had to guess, and it's only a guess, it would be something like the snowy owl which is adapted to cold climates and doesn't even fly south for the winter like most arctic birds do:
There are a couple more things I was wondering what is your take?
1. The tongue and muscle missing supposedly removed while still alive are you thinking animals?
Snowy owls inhabit the tundra of coastal Alaska, Canada and Greenland, as well as northern Scandinavia, Russia and northern Siberia. ...With their keen eyesight, snowy owls are well suited for night hunting of lemmings and other small rodents.
I think some people assume the KGB has files on this case that they haven't released, and it's a reasonable assumption but I don't think it's 100% certain. Other possibilities are the files were lost or destroyed, or maybe they still have them and the government doesn't want to admit a failed rocket test exploded in the area triggering the snow slide, and they aren't releasing the test so they don't have to pay damages to the relatives for the loss of their loved ones? Very speculative but all we can do is speculate. Actually I'm not keen on that idea since the apparent rocket was seen on Feb 17th, several weeks after the skiiers died, though I suppose there could have been another test around the time they does, but if so it doesn't seem to be too well documented.
2. Why would this scene be classified in any sense let alone part still kept secret today?
My understanding is the permission was selective, based on the proven experience levels of the groups requesting permission, but I'm just repeating what I heard without confirming it. If some more experienced groups were given permission, authorities couldn't have been too concerned about radiation levels or they might have not given anyone permission if they were really worried about radiation.
3. Why would another group be not given permission to travel to the same area a few days after this group and others were approved?