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KrzYma
this is the explanation of the Higgs field... mass comes from the movement... this is fine
but what if you don't move?
OccamsRazor04
And interestingly enough we are now using RELATIVITY in this thread.
OccamsRazor04
JBA2848
reply to post by ChaoticOrder
They are still within the atmosphere of the earth and its gravity. They must stay within it to stay with the earth or the earth will leave it as it travels away on its way around the sun. Objects don't drift away from the earth when they reach a certain distance from the earth. The earth just quits pulling it with it on its journey. The object is left in the stillness of space as the earth continues its long journey at thousands of miles per hour while spinning.
Incorrect. The Earth does still exedrt gravity on the object, it does not stop. In fact, the gravity of the Earth touches every single object in the entire Universe, every last one.
JBA2848
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
The strength of the gravity dies off and becomes weaker and does not contain enough pull in order to drag something along with it at a point. Or every object out there would have pulled together already into one mass. Hell even the moon is slowing drifting away.
AutumnWitch657
JBA2848
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
The strength of the gravity dies off and becomes weaker and does not contain enough pull in order to drag something along with it at a point. Or every object out there would have pulled together already into one mass. Hell even the moon is slowing drifting away.
It is postulated that the only reason this does not occur,, because it certainly should occur, but the theory is that dark energy, which we cannot see or feel or interact with ,keeps everything from collapsing in on itself. Dark energy keeps us separated.
AutumnWitch657
JBA2848
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
The strength of the gravity dies off and becomes weaker and does not contain enough pull in order to drag something along with it at a point. Or every object out there would have pulled together already into one mass. Hell even the moon is slowing drifting away.
It is postulated that the only reason this does not occur,, because it certainly should occur, but the theory is that dark energy, which we cannot see or feel or interact with ,keeps everything from collapsing in on itself. Dark energy keeps us separated.
OccamsRazor04
KrzYmathis means if I move relative to the Ether, I can also say Ether moves relative to me.
can not be! the whole universe ?? I require small energy to change my path, in reverse the whole Universe needs to change the path, can you see the energy required for this??
Did not bother reading the rest because you STILL do not get it. You can not attach movement to ether. Ether has NO mechanical properties. NONE.
I keep telling you and you refuse to listen. You keep talking about the PRE EINSTEIN Ether and attaching that to Einstein. Those theories are dead, Einstein proved them wrong.
AutumnWitch657
reply to post by KrzYma
Well of course not. We don't perceive the world on a quantum level. We're big. We perceive the world as solid. Quantum is all about the space inside the nucleus of the atom. Planck scale. Infinitely small. Quantum physicists can't see it. They postulate it through math.
Jukiodone
AutumnWitch657
reply to post by KrzYma
Well of course not. We don't perceive the world on a quantum level. We're big. We perceive the world as solid. Quantum is all about the space inside the nucleus of the atom. Planck scale. Infinitely small. Quantum physicists can't see it. They postulate it through math.
This is a good point.
A lot of the "spookier" aspects of quantum physics are due to our inability to see the full causality.
Instead we "observe" and indeed occupy a reality which is basically the averaged out effects of these very very small interactions.
I always plug Superfulid Vacuum theory in every quantum/gravity discussion and this is no different.
OP should read over SVT and Bose Einstein Condensates as these give satisfactory answers to his suspicions which although misguided...are intuitively sound.
AthlonSavage
reply to post by KrzYma
Higgs and Bosen and Relativity, Dark matter are all theories because they have not been fully proved, but they are the best theories main stream physics thinks are worth pursuing with research, which of course soaks up money most of which is funded by taxpayers. There is obviously a component of a scam to all this because some scientists engaged in the research of these theories may not even believe in them but are happy to go along with it if it guarantees the research grant funding dollars keep pouring. That's why is so hard for any other theories to get a leg up as if main stream accepted them then the research funding pie would need to divert some of its cash and resources away from the big three.
KrzYma
AthlonSavage
reply to post by KrzYma
Higgs and Bosen and Relativity, Dark matter are all theories because they have not been fully proved, but they are the best theories main stream physics thinks are worth pursuing with research, which of course soaks up money most of which is funded by taxpayers. There is obviously a component of a scam to all this because some scientists engaged in the research of these theories may not even believe in them but are happy to go along with it if it guarantees the research grant funding dollars keep pouring. That's why is so hard for any other theories to get a leg up as if main stream accepted them then the research funding pie would need to divert some of its cash and resources away from the big three.
actually, this is exactly how it works, simply said...
thank you !
JBA2848
14000 mph needed to break the earths gravity.