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I believe many are hoaxes but there are many that are on such a scale there in no way it is a hoax, not to mention how complex they are in every way.
I hope you had a great thanksgiving.
It was to prove the plausibility that crop circles aren't man made. I never said Aliens in that response....but thank you for your reply, it proves what you have to say is only skin deep.
Try some real research into the matter. Did you see all the crop circles back then? Did you see all of them? Where's your proof that they're not as complex? You're making the assertion!
Did you see all the crop circles back then? Did you see all of them?
And the debate was between two very respected members of this forum, and moderated by such too, and the debate forum is precisely what it is, a legitimate and formal debate. Not too different from a court preceding where the final verdict is the accepted verdict. As such, it has been debated successfully here on ATS that Crop Circles are plausibly more than man made hoaxes.
sighstars
1. They are Instantaneously Created
ArMaP
sighstars
1. They are Instantaneously Created
That's not true, some have appeared in different phases in more than one day.
AliceBleachWhite
As to Oliver's Castle, the guy that faked it explains exactly how he did it and why:
CROP CIRCLES FOR PROFIT
Some circlemakers are turning their talent into a real business -- and making big profits from it. A team including artist and filmmaker John Lundberg, Rod Dickinson and Wil Russell travel all over the world making crop circles as advertisements for big corporations. Their client list includes a multibillion dollar computer-chip company, a car manufacturer and a digital television company. Although they won't divulge exactly how much they make per crop design, their budgets are in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Early reports of circular formations
In 1686, British scientist Robert Plot reported on fairy rings in his The Natural History of Stafford-Shire and said they could be caused by airflows from the sky.[11][12] In 1991 meteorologist Terence Meaden linked this report with modern crop circles, a claim that has been compared with Erich von Däniken's pseudohistoric claims. [n 1]
An 1880 letter to the editor of Nature by amateur scientist John Rand Capron, describes how a recent storm had created several circles of flattened crops in a field.[n 2]
In the 1960s, in Tully, Queensland, Australia, and in Canada, there were many reports of UFO sightings and circular formations in swamp reeds and sugar cane fields.[3] For example, on 8 August 1967, three circles were found in a field in Duhamel, Alberta, Canada, and the Department of National Defence sent two investigators, who concluded that it was artificially made but couldn't make definite conclusions on who made them or how.[15] The most famous case is the 1966 Tully "saucer nest", when a farmer said he witnessed a saucer-shaped craft rise 30 or 40 feet (12 m) up from a swamp and then fly away. When he went to investigate the location where he thought the saucer had landed, he found a nearly circular area 32 feet long by 25 feet wide where the grass was flattened in clockwise curves to water level within the circle, and the reeds had been uprooted from the mud.[3][16] The local police officer, the Royal Australian Air Force, and the University of Queensland concluded that it was most probably caused by natural causes, like a down draught, a willy-willy (dust devil), or a waterspout.[16] In 1973, G.J. Odgers, Director of Public Relations, Department of Defence (Air Office), wrote to a journalist that the "saucer" was probably debris lifted by the causing willy-willy.[16] Hoaxers Bower and Chorley were inspired by this case to start making the modern crop circles that appear today.
Early reports of circular formations
The local police officer, the Royal Australian Air Force, and the University of Queensland concluded that it was most probably caused by natural causes, like a down draught, a willy-willy (dust devil), or a waterspout.
reply to post by LightAssassin
.................the mistake of saying what he saw as the government paradigm is to debunk any and all forms of intelligence that they can not understand or control.
DENY IGNORANCE
-AlienView
The Arecibo message that resembles an object crashing into the 9/11 Twin Towers, was produced on August 21, 2001 in Hampshire UK. Roughly 2 weeks later, the terrorist attacks followed this detail.
HumAnnunaki
After being tested, the purity of the metals were beyond human capabilities.
draknoir2
You have data to back up this assertion from a reputable source, no doubt? Metallurgical/spectroscopic analysis from a lab(s) outside the usual croppy "circles" [BLT, Leavengood etc.]?
Better yet, can you produce such independent verification of ANY archaeological object being made from metals so pure as to be beyond human capabilities?
The plates in your photos could pass for spray-painted grade school art projects... inhumanly pure metal seems an odd medium.edit on 4-12-2013 by draknoir2 because: (no reason given)
On July 22, 1991, a bizarre set of circles creating a unique pictogram appeared overnight in a wheat field located near Hildesheim, Germany.
On August 2, a peculiar guest made a fantastic discover. While using a metal detector over the formation, he registered three positive readings. Each was located within the three circles of the formation that had half rings. Digging to a depth of two feet at the three different locations, the man discovered a single metal plate at each one. The plates were very heavy, measured about 12 inches in diameter, and were heavily encrusted with dirt indicating that they had been buried for quite a while. The man carried them off, telling an overseeing farm worker that he was taking them to Mr. Harenberg. However. the man stole the plates and never returned. The story becomes more intriguing. The man took the plates and later called Mr. Harenberg on August 7, and sent him a picture of one of them. Amazingly, embossed on the plate was a replica of the crop circle formation!
[url]http://www.cosmicchannelings.com/blog/those-mysterious-gold-plates-discovered-beneath-crop-circles-in-germany-which-have-the-same-design-on-them[ /url]
gortex
Oh yes the Grasdorf Plates ...what ever happened to them ?
I would have thought if they were placed there by ET as a message then more would be known about them and their location now but they seem to have vanished , or is there a link to more information on them ?