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HanzHenry
reply to post by WarminIndy
"the bible is not to be taken literally,
Yet the idiots the world over do so, still. To heck with dinosaurs they say."
Lol? I take the Bible literally, and occasionally metaphorically where the language and context calls for it. Yet, I believe dinosaurs existed....you are apparently misinformed .
RatoAstuto
reply to post by WarminIndy
How can any fan's interpretation of a book they enjoy be wrong or right? You know, so long as it isn't a text book on Calculus or something solid like that? You see, like it or not, just because you believe in the Bible does not make the Bible a factual document. No disrespect intended, but that's the truth of the matter. So no one's interpretation is any more accurate than another's. And more importantly, we live in a nation were people are free to practice whatever religion they like in any way they like, and to hear you claim that to be a danger leads me to think you'd feel more at home in a good old, iron-fisted theocracy.
That being said, you've missed the point I was making. The message is a good one, regardless of the man who came up with it. It is a message of understanding and peace. Yes, the man is a monster and anyone who knows who he is would agree, but even from the lips of monsters can pass sound advice.
Let me put it like this; Bernie Madoff is a villain, but I wouldn't scoff if he offered me tax advice.
PS Your little description of how cults come to exist is pretty much how every religion comes to exist.
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MadMax9
reply to post by WarminIndy
Brilliant. Anyway God isn't interested is our intelligence or knowledge. That will annoy the snot out of theologians now won't it.
OpinionatedB
reply to post by WarminIndy
Can you provide me some quotes? I am just curious... We have many many teachings on the importance of knowledge and learning as well... But I did not realize Christianity had the same.
Job 34:2 Hear my words, O ye wise men; and give ear unto me, ye that have knowledge.
Psalm 119:66 Teach me good judgment and knowledge: for I have believed thy commandments.
Proverbs 2:3 Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;
Proverbs 8:10 Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.
Proverbs 10:14 Wise men lay up knowledge: but the mouth of the foolish is near destruction.
Proverbs 20:15 There is gold, and a multitude of rubies: but the lips of knowledge are a precious jewel.
Ecclesiastes 7:12 For wisdom is a defence, and money is a defence: but the excellency of knowledge is, that wisdom giveth life to them that have it.
RatoAstuto
reply to post by WarminIndy
Kind of like how Jesus said some pretty things and lead a bunch of jews astray, leading them to his personal little cult? Cults are just off shoots of major religions that have yet to gain major acceptance. Christianity was considered a cult until it became vastly popular and people just had to accept that other people are going to have other beliefs, as you do now. And no bit of anecdotal evidence like the story in your OP can change that. Don't worry though, just because some people like to read the bible without being told how to interpret it by some oh so holy organization of blood and flesh men does not mean you or anyone is in danger.
charles1952
reply to post by Rex282
Dear Rex282,
I rejoice that you announce that you know God. Your post was good and valuable, thanks.
I wonder if your experience is the same as everyone else's, I'm not sure that all receive the same direct revelation you seem to have. Let me try to explain.
If I were planning a trip to Buleckistan, I would first have to know that such a country actually existed. Then, being prudent, I would want to learn some of the basics; is it hot or cold, free or dictatorial, do they speak English, will they even allow tourists?
This process teaches me some of the basics to get started and even gives me a rough idea of the country. I know enough to judge whether I still want to go, and what might be expected of me when I arrive. When I finally do get there, live in the country, I will know it much more completely than I ever did before.
I see the same in approaching God and Jesus. Reading the Bible, its commentaries, and history, prepares me for the trip that puts me in a position to experience the real thing. It also, by the way, allows me to more fully understand the Bible and what people have said about it.
I think both are essential, and that in most cases the Bible, or someone talking about it, comes first and is a necessary first step.
But I may have misunderstood you. In that case feel free to correct me.
With respect,
Charles1952
akushla99
charles1952
reply to post by Rex282
...and is Buleckistan, a 'real place' Charles1952?
Å99
Lazarus Short
No, seriously, remember that no Scripture is of private interpretation. If someone throws something new into the mix, we need to step back, think it through, and discern if this new thing fits with the whole. Since God has laid it all out for us already, anything new will probably not fit, unless it is a long-suppressed truth which is coming into view again. The salvation of all (aka, Universal Reconciliation) is one such LST.
WarminIndy
akushla99
charles1952
reply to post by Rex282
...and is Buleckistan, a 'real place' Charles1952?
Å99
That's the point Charles1952 was making. If someone says "Let's go there" and if you don't know already, and you assume it does just because someone tells you, and you go to the travel agency to book your flight and they laugh at you because the place doesn't exist, then probably you should have learned that first, instead of the hard way.
BTW, have you ever been snipe hunting?
edit on 11/14/2013 by WarminIndy because: (no reason given)
charles1952
reply to post by Rex282
Dear Rex282,
I rejoice that you announce that you know God. Your post was good and valuable, thanks.
I wonder if your experience is the same as everyone else's, I'm not sure that all receive the same direct revelation you seem to have. Let me try to explain.
If I were planning a trip to Buleckistan, I would first have to know that such a country actually existed. Then, being prudent, I would want to learn some of the basics; is it hot or cold, free or dictatorial, do they speak English, will they even allow tourists?
This process teaches me some of the basics to get started and even gives me a rough idea of the country. I know enough to judge whether I still want to go, and what might be expected of me when I arrive. When I finally do get there, live in the country, I will know it much more completely than I ever did before.
I see the same in approaching God and Jesus. Reading the Bible, its commentaries, and history, prepares me for the trip that puts me in a position to experience the real thing. It also, by the way, allows me to more fully understand the Bible and what people have said about it.
I think both are essential, and that in most cases the Bible, or someone talking about it, comes first and is a necessary first step.
But I may have misunderstood you. In that case feel free to correct me.
With respect,
Charles1952