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reply to post by GenerationGap
I'm very happy to be the first to give a star to your response. Well said, sir.
Sheez... You are trying to tell us all here that $1000 in 1984 is worth $450 today? LOL.... LOL... I could buy a HUGE order (heaping cart with 1/4 meats) of groceries for $50. The newspaper was $1.25 a week. The phone bill was $10.50 a month. The cable bill was $7 a month. I could eat a breakfast in a restaurant (2 eggs, toast, homefries) for 99 cents. And the 3 month sewage bill was $9. We rented 1/2 a duplex house for $275, which included gas and electric. Do you realize that our health insurance cost was not much different than what we paid to live? It WAS a lot! Do I need to continue? LOL.... LOL...
So please do tell me, how much that 99 cent breakfast would cost today with your rationale. I am very curious... LOL...
And may I ask how a $17,000 health insurance bill can be an, "inconvenience" for any middle class person? Are you friggin nuts?
reply to post by elouina
My in laws cost just went up to 17,676 per year. And this little **#*! Is complaining !
My father in law had drop him self off the coverage from Blue Cross, he now goes to the VA,.still better than the Aca bronze plan . My mother in law is covered under BlueCross but at 8,400 per year about 700 per month.
I'm really PO 'd at this ACA . wait until her parents get a bill for 17k per year , bet she is cut off fast.
Under this health care fiasco, businesses by law have to offer health care to people that make over 40 hours a week. Guess what will happen? Not only are you forced to pay more in health care costs you now will probably lose your full time work and have to survive on part time work. Are you feeling it yet? Welcome to slave America. You're going to need health care alright because you are going to work yourself to death just to pay for all this.
...these are lies about obamacare made up to try and limit the success of a winning president.
reply to post by kozmo
Seriously, people flipping burgers asking and protesting to make 15 bucks an hour!!! Get a real skill, better yourself and don't expect anything, because when you do, you DESERVE a punch to the face with a reality check stating "YOU DESERVED THAT".
You do realize that from 1950 to 1980 (slightly less so as you get closer to 1980) someone working full time as a burger flipper making minimum wage made so much money they could own a house, pay for college out of pocket, eat like a king, have health insurance, and have a little bit of money left over for recreation.
That is how far minimum wage has declined.
reply to post by elouina
Do you notice in this video they never talk about the fact she can pay the 95 dollar fine and continue doing what she is doing ?
Young people will just blame this on old folks like they do social security payments even though a large part of the people they are paying for are not old at all there young and have existing illness's.
As for it being an inconvenience, I know plenty of middle class people (I'm not one myself, and likely never will be) they do things like spend several hundred thousand on houses, buy luxury SUV's, buy designer brand puppies, new top of the line gaming computers every 6 months, and eat out for all three meals every day. Clearly the middle class has plenty of money to burn if they're able to spend $12,000 a year on computer equipment, $16,000 on restaurants, $12,000 on car payments, and so on. So yes, I do call someone just having to cut back on a bit of that in order to carry actual health insurance that doesn't bankrupt the system an inconvenience. You yourself mentioned earlier in this thread how much money you casually throw around on just your health insurance before Obamacare. That amount happened to be more than I and many others like me have to live on for an entire year.
Some people (including you it seems) do not realize how good they have it. I say that as I type this with all the lights off in my apartment and no heat as I can't afford to run either.
And before you say I'm just wanting to take from those with more money, I'm not. Everyone should pay... that's actually what I expected Obama to do. I expected the person who was paying 30% in taxes to now be paying 40%, and I expected the person who was paying 20% to now be paying 27%. The billing system that's currently in place was thought out very poorly. You can't have a system that covers everyone at all times that only some people are actually paying into.edit on 8-11-2013 by Aazadan because: (no reason given)edit on 8-11-2013 by Aazadan because: (no reason given)
Where you seem to be getting confused is where I bring up that people make relatively less money today for their work.
reply to post by elouina
So what you are telling me is that this 28 year old is going to get good health insurance for a pretty low price....but we should all start our two minutes of hate against Obama because this little princess thinks that is too much money?
Any chance you get huh...it's kind of sad.
So let it commence people...two minutes of hate....GO.