Melting Starfish and Odd Orca Behavior in Pacific Ocean

reply to post by Carreau


situation is bad, but man, your pic is color full nonsense software made... no weather or water natural ways involved... bull crap.

reply to post by Carreau




This is Leuren Moret's latest update on Fukushima Radiation across the Pacific. I'm not sure if anyone posted this yet but here it is.


From Dr. Conrad Miller

reply to post by Egyptia


u know if this is the best scientist's from Berkly ? have too offer,,,,,imoho,,were screwed,,,if thats called scientific analysis,,,,a dwarf,, ohh well there u go,,,,god help us,

I think this is the worst catastrophic event we ever had in human history. I don't blame Japan for this but everybody who ever started nuclear power plants and especially the ones who said "ah it's no problem to put it on fault lines"

To me this whole thing is the calm before the storm...but after the storm I'm afraid we all will be calm.

reply to post by BobAthome


I agree 100% - and even so we don't know if we are receiving any 'real' data because the blackout is not just in the general mainstream world but I do believe it is in controlling these 'meetings' with false data. We are screwed and God help us indeed because short of a miracle this will mount up to a silent slow genocide which is what they want.

What better way to handicap a significant amount of the population, food source, climate, sea life, water table, food in general and people than to do it through the slow but deadly radiation poisoning. The fact that it is so slow impacting everything and everyone makes it harder to point a finger at the source or origin. This too is convenient and purposeful towards their genocidal agenda for what is coming next.

They want us weak and powerless. They want us consumed with fighting to stay alive and our own personal survival so that we no longer pose a threat and eventually they want to thin the herd. People in droves will be dying early via various illnesses meanwhile our genes will be permanently mutated which will simply be inherited altering the entire population eventually. With a very compromised immune system including an altered thyroid this will create the perfect decoy for inducing a slow genocide under the guise of normal illnesses.

Everything including how this disaster was and continues to NOT BE DEALT with is a direct global attack that is anything but accidental.

GOD is the Only One who can help us!

reply to post by mactheaxe


fund you? do you live on the west coast?
building your own geiger counter is just a quick google away
[you'll need to take into account local reactor leakages btw]

readings from local rad monitors could be hacked and faked [think Stuxnet ]

yet we're not seeing any evidence of rad poisoning in japan

we've members from japan who live in the immediate area
[but of course we're going to ignore them]

the radiation spread map is really measuring wave height due to the tsunami


no doubt something toxic is killing and maiming the sea life

but I'd look more closely at the pacific garbage patch

or the 100 tons of rust the eco-terrorist/rogue geo-engineer russ george dumped into the pacific

Because of an on-going investigation by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency the Weatherbird II did not load iron ore dust in the United States. Loading material from the U.S. for the purpose of ocean dumping is illegal. Speculation is that the ship is looking to obtain the material in a non U.S. port. It certainly is not available in Bermuda so the ship will most likely be heading towards Europe or possibly Canada considering it left Miami and headed Northeast. The crew said they would be heading Southeast, however if you're going Northeast and did not want anyone to know, you would naturally say Southeast. If your intention is to go Southeast from Miami, then Bermuda is not a waypoint.

Sea Shepherd did discover that they are looking to obtain iron dust from ground-up scrap. This contradicts their earlier report that they would be using virgin iron ore dust. The problem with scrap is that it also contains oils, impurities, and alloys and this could have an adverse effect upon plankton. Passing out little bags of dust one crewmember cautioned that it could be contaminated because they had it for a few months on board. She said, ""If you get it tested it's probably contaminated because we've had this bag for several months now."

www.seashepherd.org...

algae blooms could be increasing the levels of neurotoxins in the water. combine that with the above...


again: note how the usual suspects are mum about something easily debunked those pictures in the OP when plugged into google image search show thousands of links to doom porn, all using the same Photoshopped image.

here's the original NOAA sans the graph lines www.nnvl.noaa.gov...


it's a psyop and we're [well not I ]being played.

but I'm through here, as I know the usual, now silent, suspects are having a laugh at my expense.
there just reeling out enough rope to let as many people hang themselves as possible.

or impale themselves on those punji-sticks you referenced

No Dawn dishwashing soap fix for this one. If it's fukushima there is nothing they can do to reverse this. If it's another polutant there is nothing they can do to reverse it (it's melting starfish)- the ocean is too big. It's fluid for crying out loud. All they can do is stop whatever pollutants they put in it and hope it heals itself.

Irradiation is not the same as radiation. Irradiation is like an xray - it does not remain for eons.

reply to post by Metaphysique


"there just reeling out enough rope",,actually i thought u were a stock holder in rope, sales,,but,,,when i worked in the Heating Biz,, if i had a fuel oil spill,,,god help me there were ,,sandbags, envoirment impact form, insurance claims,,god forbid if your oil tank leaked,,,,,

300 TONS of waste per day since 20011,,,,,and,,its not a problemm,,no impact whatsoever too see here.
ya except if ur a small guy.

reply to post by Carreau


Sorry I missed this I only frequent the Japan forum about this kind of thing. You mention Starfish melting. They have very special DNA. I believe they can also regenerate. So if they are suffering DNA damage due to radioactivity maybe? All I got sorry. Yeah I know about the reports out of Canada. This is nothing new. These are new species you bring up the locals were already up in arms about other species suffering the exact same symptoms of radiation sickness.

Same with the Salmon in Oregon and Washington. If it walks like a Duck and quacks like a Duck I am inclined to believe it is a Duck because I know for a fact that Ducks exist. A lot of people want to stick their head in the sand and act like Ducks do not exist though.

The only other answer I can give you OP and others is that the radiation from Fukushima might be altering already known illnesses DNA. Virii tend to mutate at an alarming rate. Thus why the flu and the common cold are so contagious. Apply that to bacteria and so on. So my best guess is radiation damage or radiation damage. Yeah I went there. Because it would be direct or indirect.

What else would magically pop out of thin air and start killing everything in the northern pacific ocean? We have given the pacific a lot more attention since Fukushima though so that is also of note. However all of that radioactivity has to go somewhere. It doesn't just magically disappear and when one isotope vanishes its usually because it beta decayed (nuclear transmuted) into another form of radioactivity.

Hope the info helps.

Seriously, can we stop with the fear mongering, already? Not every single thing happening in the Pacific Ocean of which you were previously aware, whether it is a dead oarfish or a sick seal or a fungus-covered starfish, is a result of Fukushima for crying out loud. And really, at the end of the day, what are you doing about it even if it were? Getting on ATS? How is that supposed to help, exactly? Seems to me you would do better posting this on FB if you really wanted people to know as opposed to just wanting a slap on the back from fellow conspiracy buffs. Just sayin...

reply to post by Metaphysique


im finished. nothing to see here. no logic. good day. i wish you well in all your endeavours. just take your iodine and fuggetaboutit.

jaffo
Seriously, can we stop with the fear mongering, already?

No one is fear mongering. In fact I am going to invent a new word for you. Fluff mongering. Can we stop fluff mongering? Insert whatever cute cuddly word in place of fluff that you like. When I read the thread what I saw was one person suggest something. Get personally attacked at even suggesting it and then fluff mongering exploded. So then anyone who even remotely suggested Fukushima backed up what they said with news articles.

Then the Fluff mongers backed up what they said with whatever it is that they use. I see this constantly and it is the exact same people in every thread. Except the personal attacks those come from anywhere. Anyhow I did suggest an alternative. Although you might not like it because it is an indirect cause. New illnesses caused by radioactive mutation. Hope that helps.

reply to post by Egyptia


I will watch the rest of this video, because I want to hear what the scientist from Berkley has to say on it. However the guy just lost credibility by referring to this as a false flag event!.

i wonder if he knows what the terms means,

Either way whatever is going on in the pacific is very concerning, considering I live 3 hours drive from it, on the west side of Mexico. it would be "interesting' and yet alarming if these issues start to be a common feature further down the western coastline of the Americas.

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reply to post by BobAthome


living in fear will kill you faster than any radiation.

Peer review trumps doom porn every time...

Evaluation of radiation doses and associated risk from the Fukushima nuclear accident to marine biota and human consumers of seafood

Abstract
Radioactive isotopes originating from the damaged Fukushima nuclear reactor in Japan following the earthquake and tsunami in March 2011 were found in resident marine animals and in migratory Pacific bluefin tuna (PBFT).

Publication of this information resulted in a worldwide response that caused public anxiety and concern, although PBFT captured off California in August 2011 contained activity concentrations below those from naturally occurring radionuclides.

To link the radioactivity to possible health impairments, we calculated doses, attributable to the Fukushima-derived and the naturally occurring radionuclides, to both the marine biota and human fish consumers.

We showed that doses in all cases were dominated by the naturally occurring alpha-emitter 210Po and that Fukushima-derived doses were three to four orders of magnitude below 210Po-derived doses.

Doses to marine biota were about two orders of magnitude below the lowest benchmark protection level proposed for ecosystems (10 µGy⋅h−1).

The additional dose from Fukushima radionuclides to humans consuming tainted PBFT in the United States was calculated to be 0.9 and 4.7 µSv for average consumers and subsistence fishermen, respectively.

Such doses are comparable to, or less than, the dose all humans routinely obtain from naturally occurring radionuclides in many food items, medical treatments, air travel, or other background sources.

Although uncertainties remain regarding the assessment of cancer risk at low doses of ionizing radiation to humans, the dose received from PBFT consumption by subsistence fishermen can be estimated to result in two additional fatal cancer cases per 10,000,000 similarly exposed people.

reply to post by Drunkenparrot


from the same school u have quoted,,,,

In 2009, $6.9 million was made available in the State University of New York (SUNY) capital budget for the construction of a new, state-of-the-art marine science laboratory at the site of the current Marine Station on the waterfront at Stony Brook Southampton. The present facilities are not adequate to support the explosive growth of SoMAS’s undergraduate marine science and environmental science programs,


so i guess there well funded too do the research.


cash trumps peer review.



seems like a nice place,,

The SoMAS Southampton Marine Station is located on Old Fort Pond in Shinnecock Bay, a short walk from the main campus. From the facility, students and faculty have direct access to local bays, estuaries, and the Atlantic Ocean. The marine station is the site of five laboratories and a fleet of boats including the R/V Paumanok, a 44-foot ocean-going vessel used for coastal research, the R/V Shinnecock, a 35-foot platform craft used for sampling local bays and estuaries and the R/V Peconic, a 45-foot catamaran, houseboat-style vessel for operation in protected bays and rivers. Smaller outboard craft are equipped with winches, davits and metering wheels for sampling instruments such as oxygen analyzers, CTD-probes, and trawls. The aquarium/wet laboratory allows maintenance of live marine species throughout the year for classroom use.

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The author of the paper I cited seems to be well published in his field...

Nicholas S. Fisher
Distinguished Professor & Director, Consortium for Inter-Disciplinary Environmental Research, Stony Brook University
Ph.D., 1974, State University of New York at Stony Brook

...and the Stony Brook University Marine and Atmospheric Sciences laboratory is recognized for making some notable scientific discoveries.

Stony Brook University Research

Pimpintology

jaffo
Seriously, can we stop with the fear mongering, already?

No one is fear mongering. In fact I am going to invent a new word for you. Fluff mongering. Can we stop fluff mongering? Insert whatever cute cuddly word in place of fluff that you like. When I read the thread what I saw was one person suggest something. Get personally attacked at even suggesting it and then fluff mongering exploded. So then anyone who even remotely suggested Fukushima backed up what they said with news articles.

Then the Fluff mongers backed up what they said with whatever it is that they use. I see this constantly and it is the exact same people in every thread. Except the personal attacks those come from anywhere. Anyhow I did suggest an alternative. Although you might not like it because it is an indirect cause. New illnesses caused by radioactive mutation. Hope that helps.

edit on 28-10-2013 by Pimpintology because: he was vaccinated as a child

Actually, yes you are fear mongering. Suggesting something is not even in the same realm as proving something or showing evidence for something. And I did not attack anyone personally. I simply pointed out that people are relying on bad data and ignoring the data they don't like because it doesn't support their "ZOMG!!! WE"RE ALL DOOMED!!!" screeching, which has become far too common here.

I sometimes wonder if the global warming movement was setup specifically to confuse any nuclear energy type incident.

Here's another possible cause - if the radiation from Fukushima wasn't bad enough, at the same time, every time there is torrential rain storms, mercury used during the gold-rush era also gets washed out to sea:

www.newsdaily.com...

I guess everything else from car wrecks like car battery acid, oil, anti-freeze also gets washed out as well.