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However, I must say that I am just a bit concerned about Earth passing through it's tail.
What I would like to talk about is do we even accept what is being told is actually true?
We only know a small factor and thats it!
peter vlar
Thanks for the trip down memory lane, I used to love Thundarr the Barbarian on Saturday mornings too.
Oh really now? So what "experimentation" are you doing? Have you flown and landed on comet ISON in order to conduct your so-called experiment, Please explain if you like?
Sure, Just as saying that "there is no reason to suspect that ISON IS any different from every other comet out there" is a reckless assumption.
If it behaves as predicted why would it be reckless to assume such when that is how other results and knowledge is gained through experimentation?
Who claimed that ISON was ever doing something strange? You can try to explain that as well, but let's use a little logic and not fabricate arguments that nobody even made.
Well your "suspicions" are nothing more than speculation or theories, now aren't they my friend? Let's just stick to what we know, which is not a lot concerning the entire picture. We sure like to assume that we know everything though, now don't we humans?
Well that depends on what we were, or are currently attempting to do. While on the subject though, who ever suggested that we not keep an open mind about everything concerning the Universe?
In fact, that is exactly the point that I have tried hard to make here in this thread. Go back and read it, then get back to me after you have.
TheNewSense
And this concern is based on what?
InhaleExhale
If it behaves as predicted why would it be reckless to assume such when that is how other results and knowledge is gained through experimentation?
I am saying it would be reckless but asking the question is it, its been observed and follows whats been observed in other passing comets, so I asked the question I did followed by another that you seem to be misunderstanding.
Lets use some logic yes I agree.
I asked a question and you quoted it in your reply,
do you not understand the question, you are now asking the same one so what is so hard to understand?
I am talking about science and its theories and speculations not mine.
That is how it works and how we gain knowledge, through theory and the experimentation to prove those theories.
You can go on about knowing and not knowing all you want
leave the new age crap out of a space exploration thread and let science be the discussion.
What?
To do things that we don't know but have suspicions about, we experiment.
I don't know who ever suggested that we not keep an open mind about everything concerning the universe, Do we know everything concerning the universe to suggest such? If that is being done then we wouldn't be experimenting would we?
NO thanks that would be derailing a thread Comet Ison and OPs position that you cant get good info on it and that something strange is about.
I agree with the feelings the OP is having concerning many things happening but have different reasons for this happening and humanity as a whole and as individuals feeling the way it does.
Phage
reply to post by infoseeker26754
The tail of a comet is dust. The meteors from comet tails do not hit the ground, they vaporize high in the atmosphere. We pass through several each year.
Explain Bit of a meteor shower? One week in Sept we had over 30+, all it takes is one Bit to hit something as small as a power plant or a city.
stardate.org...
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TheNewSense
Are you concerned with cars hitting you when you walk on the sidewalk? It is possible but is it a rational fear?
research3300
here is couple articles on comets and possible connections to the major plagues:
Comets & Contagion
Viruses, Bacteria & Diseases from Space
journalofcosmology.com...
Different theory:
cassiopaea.org...
more speculation:
mb-soft.com...
comets delivering life?
arxiv.org...
TheNewSense
It is wiser not too worry about everything that could possibly go wrong with anything, but it is your prerogative.
Soylent Green Is People
That comet was Comet Tempel 1, which is 5 miles long and 3 miles wide (7.6 km x 4.9 km). NASA's "Deep Impact" probe sent the 450 pound projectile to the comet, and it hit the comet at 23,000 mph (36,800 km/h). The impact left a 500 foot (150 m) wide crater on the surface of the comet.
Picture of Comet Tempel 1 taken up-close by the Deep Impact Probe:
Some comets are dirty balls of ice (mostly ice), while others are icy balls of dirt (mostly dirt / rock). The Deep Impact mission showed that Tempel 1 was the latter. It is mostly made of dust and rock, but contains plenty of ice, too. Spectrographic analysis of the debris kicked up by the impactor showed silicates, carbonates, metal clays, metal sulfides and water.
We also sent probes to comets that have returned dust from that comet to Earth. The Stardust Mission was such a mission. It trailed behind Comet Wild 2 (pronounced "Vilt") and collected samples of the coma of the comet, and returned those samples to earth. Hydrocarbons, crystalline silicates, and some pure carbon was found.
Picture of Comet Wild 2 taken up-close by the Stardust Probe:
SheopleNation
So Soylent, What could the reason be why we don't have close up images of ISON? I was wondering your opinion about that, or if anyone else here knows? ~$heopleNation
MysterX
Phage
reply to post by infoseeker26754
The tail of a comet is dust. The meteors from comet tails do not hit the ground, they vaporize high in the atmosphere. We pass through several each year.
Explain Bit of a meteor shower? One week in Sept we had over 30+, all it takes is one Bit to hit something as small as a power plant or a city.
stardate.org...
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There's evidence that some of the dust particles are small enough not to be vaporised, and actually survive entry...they are SO small though that it takes an estimated two years for them to make landfall (or seafall) after entering.
Speculation exists as to whether or not this nano dust harbours biological hitchhikers. Some work has been done to see if there are correllations between cometary tail dust entering our atmosphere, and plague / viral outbreaks between a year or two later.
Can't remember the research or who carried it out, but it was a some years ago..so the theory may not be accurate, after all if it were we'd probably still be hearing about it now.
peter vlar
SheopleNation
So Soylent, What could the reason be why we don't have close up images of ISON? I was wondering your opinion about that, or if anyone else here knows? ~$heopleNation
It really comes down to time and logistics. this comet was only "found" a little over a year ago which precludes any reasonable mission planning in regards to sending out a new probe, lander etc. to investigate it. Additionally, there just isn't anything in the vicinity to get a close up shot of ISON and other orbital imagers such as Hubble just aren't suited for taking photos of what is on a cosmic scale, a very tiny comet reflecting very little light compared to a distant galaxy that's 30,000 light years in diameter. As an example, if you have an SLR camera focus it on an object that's for example 50 feet away from you. Then take the camera without altering the focus and direct it at an object 10 feet away. The farther shot would be clear and the nearer would be a blob.
SheopleNation
peter vlar
Thanks for the trip down memory lane, I used to love Thundarr the Barbarian on Saturday mornings too.
LMAO! That response was priceless! I loved that show as a kid, and you stayed on topic because of the meteorite impact that happens in the beginning. While on the subject, I swear I saw Ookla The Mok one time while walking through the woods. True story. ~$heopleNation
edit on 29-10-2013 by SheopleNation because: TypO
peter vlar
It really comes down to time and logistics. this comet was only "found" a little over a year ago which precludes any reasonable mission planning in regards to sending out a new probe, lander etc. to investigate it. Additionally, there just isn't anything in the vicinity to get a close up shot of ISON and other orbital imagers such as Hubble just aren't suited for taking photos of what is on a cosmic scale, a very tiny comet reflecting very little light compared to a distant galaxy that's 30,000 light years in diameter. As an example, if you have an SLR camera focus it on an object that's for example 50 feet away from you. Then take the camera without altering the focus and direct it at an object 10 feet away. The farther shot would be clear and the nearer would be a blob.