reply to post by infoseeker26754
I guess this thread has been not really about ISON (just one of thousands of comets that has been visiting us in human history) but about taking a
stab at science and letting your imagination fly free. Yes, let's disregard the fact that science has been studying the universe using scientific
method (as opposed to religious doctrines and superstition), making succesfull predictions, allowing us have advanced medicine, cars, planes,
spaceflight, the Internet to discuss these things, and an unprecendented insight into stars, planets, galaxies, etc. including our own planet.
Suppose ISON will pass us by like an ordinary comet. Will have people learned something from this? Or will they start another "campaign" against
science and its predictions when another comet comes along? That's one of the biggest differences between science and the anti-science crowd: science
Can the Sun not rise tomorrow (or even in a few hundred year's time)? You mentioned this possibility, but have you considered what this possibility
would imply? The Sun cannot disappear, or go out like a candle. The Earth cannot stop spinning just like that. There would have to be some titanic
force to have it stop, and that kind of force would shatter our planet into rubble. And that force would have to come from some very massive object,
which we would be able to see approaching for decades before it gets here.
Thinking "we don't know everything, therefore anything can happen" is a fallacy. We wouldn't be where we are now if we thought like that. We would
still live in stone age if it weren't for science. Science is behind all the technologies we use, from forging metal and making tools and structures
out of it, to agriculture and medicine.
Good point! Except look at where we are today, could say its better
Yet somehow you have forgotten how life, trees, sinkholes, sea
life washing up dead, birds falling dead, shall I go on? Yes we have gone a long way, have cool stuff yet at what cost?
It is about Ison, comets and the like. So what you are saying is at no time in our past, comets had no effect on anything? Allow the good, forget
about the bad. No "campaign" here, only considering why things are left out in the Eq. Oh its good now, for the time being. I actually like science,
I just see some flaws. Most of the time its the quick fixes I worry about.
Fact is, almost anything is possible really. Yet we somehow place ideas into facts and now its safe, no need to ponder anything anymore. We are still
in the Stone Ages, just happen to come across some new ideas and yet, what if the power goes down, run out of oil, both are soon to happen yet we
spend the money elsewhere. Lose either one and Hello Dark Ages!
Its already been said that we can see only 10% of whats out there; science again, there is no way to keep track of them all! How could we anyway, more
of a chance of some Space Junk falling on your house someday! Either way, I'm not bad mouthing science, just see the need to look beyond then the fix
it now idea. And by the way, no we can not see anything coming our way, by the time we see it coming, sofar we have less then 3 yrs to do something;
being nice on this one! Since what could we do about it now? So lets say we could stop a comet and the likes, lets go with USA. Blow it to bits yet it
falls down on China, saved the US yet doom somewhere else. Would Sorry be of any help? We have a long way to go, to say its a fact, were safe, just
another comet, yet leave out any other known facts is just Stupid.
And yes the Sun could go out, the moon can leave orbit, we can pole shift, lose all fresh water, large earthquakes, bigger storms, solar storms, are
you kidding? Heard cell phones cause cancer, no way in hell right? No chance of anything, we are so good right now, yet why is their so much Death
unexplained right now? Lets go with something simple, Bees.
Using an open mind yet science would say they do not know whats causing the die off of bees. Anyone considered the GM Food we now have? If it has no
taste, maybe the bees do not like it either, or all the spraying has done some harm yet we still do it.
I might not know much, so many things out there based upon facts. I tend to see many sides of just one idea. One known Fact is if we continue to take
and not give back, we shall see what we created. In the 80's it was called Global Warming, what shall we call it now?
I do see a hush, now all of a sudden a care to prepare yet it is safe. If you find something odd, would you not look at every possible way or would
you accept what people say as fact? Until you yourself can say anything is a fact, one must go through all the ideas, ways, history, and the like to
find the reason for the oddness. Why have a brain if you do not use it? So far I can tell, being open and questioning everything leads to a better
understanding. Thats how one Learn for themselves.