posted on May, 22 2003 @ 11:48 PM
Sorry to sound condescending before, but all the talk I see on this board about how we can "take 'em" is very scary.
How do I know that they are significantly more advanced than us? Well, every credentialed scientists out there will tell you that it would take more
energy to send a ship to alpha centauri at .20 lightspeed than all of humanity has ever produced. Few will seriously speculate about sending a ship
at speeds higher than .20, because past that cosmic rays and particles would be hitting your ship with the power of atom bombs, only focused on single
spots along your ship.
Ok, so look at scientists who believe artificial wormholes can be constructed. Still, the consensus is that an artificial wormhole would require
something on the scale of the energy produced by a star (a thing which makes sense considering that black holes are collapsed stars).
Now, are scientists wrong on occasion? Yes. Could their energy estimates be wrong? Yes. And, on top of that, could the idea that lightspeed is an
absolute speed limit be wrong? Yes..
However, the fact that scientists could be wrong about their limits and requirements only emphasizes the tech difference between humans and aliens, as
it shows that humans cannot even come up with serious THEORIES on how alien vehicles work.
...But, let's go back to our conservative estimates for a moment... let's say that the 'Greys' do have a civilization that can produce 'stellar'
power.. well, to get back to the original question, is it smart to fight someone who can replicate the energy of a star? A civ that can send vehicles
between stars, by the very nature of such a flight, is already demonstrating that it uses energy of a greater output than our best weapons on a daily
Also, technology doesn't emerge from nowhere. For every use of technology there must also be support and purpose. We have 747s because there is an
economic need for them... if aliens operate interstellar craft on a regular basis, they must have a need for them. Thus, it is almost certain that
their civilization covers several star systems. Also, to fly a 747 requires a production line, a distributed system of logistics, and various trained
personel. Even if the USA handed a 747 over to Bushmen in Africa, they would NOT be able to operate an airline (which brings up the "we're they're
equals because they crash" objection... 747s crash, on occasion, yet they are far more advanced than canoes, wouldn't you say?).
If aliens are travelling between the stars they have the economic need and infrastructure to do so. Sure, we went to the moon... but we had the
infrastructure to do that, and, by going towards the defeat of a communist system, had an economic benefit. Notice that, since the fall of the USSR,
the space program has been severely neglected.
Sure, we might be able to mess with the aliens and even cause them casualties, in the event of an invasion, but so, too, the Zulus were able to
inflict losses on the British. The problem, and lesson, with that is that the British only untied both hands and crushed the Zulu... even today,
though the Zulu have nominal self-governance, they are, from an economic standpoint, entirely dependent on the West.
...Oh, and to say something like, "You have to prove that we don't have ET level weapons if you're to argue we can't fight ET" is not a valid
point of argument, as it's safe to believe that our weapons ARE what we know them to be like, whereas the person who assumes we have ET level weapons
is the one who has to prove stuff.
Sorry to be rude, but i honestly think the whole tough guy attitude is what keeps the human race from making real, bona fide contact with ETs. It
also keeps us from becoming their equals, as it denies us access to their knowledge. The ONLY way to ever become the military equals of the ETs is to
seek them out in a peaceful manner, make contact, try to learn from them, and then buy time until we have an equal infrastructure to theirs. Right
now, all the 'we can fight them off' talk is like a tribesman singing about the honor of his clan and how he can defeat all enemies while squadrons
of helicopter gunships fly over his head. Do you guys really want to be thought of as the "Human Information Minsister"?