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LowTechRedneck
If the American govt stays shut down and we default on our debts, it opens the door for a world currency and government. This is exactly what TPTB want, and our Plotiticians are selling us down the river.
soficrow
reply to post by xuenchen
Tell me my friend - Do you think corporate states will replace nation states formally? Or will it all proceed discreetly until the next generation just thinks it's "normal"? ...Already, few seem concerned that we're defined as 'consumers' rather than 'voters' or citizens.'
olaru12
Any real student of American history knows exactly the way America solves it's financial problems.
WAR
Get ready for a big one. The Middle East is just practice.edit on 13-10-2013 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)
Crakeur
reply to post by Merlynn
easier said than done. overseas labor costs, and rules, are far more lucrative for corporations.
On the BBC News today it is quite obvious with the deregulation of Chinese banks trading in the UK we are gearing to the Chinese World Currency and the dropping of the Dollar.... The Default seems to be a certainty but it isn't being publicly acknowledged.
dominicus
reply to post by xuenchen
This is the beginning of the U.S. demise regardless.
BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) have been talking about De-Americanised world for the last 5 years or so. Now with the Gov shut down, debt ceiling possible fiasco, nsa spying on the whole world, no one wants to do business with the U.S. anyway, and the world is working together to get rid of the US Dollar as reserve currency for oil......
....once oil is traded via a differing currency globally, that's when we will be in for quite a ride.
U.S. is done, over with. Thanks to Corporate Military Industrial Complex Fascism. Its a country ran by Bankers/Fascists/Rogue Agencies. Which means it will all crumble, constitution hanging by a thread, public apathy, 1/3 on food stamps, jobs gone, .........
And, we ain't seen nothing yet!!!!!
DataWraith
reply to post by xuenchen
This is more of a reply to all. Including the USA and China.
Who the F88k really cares if the US economy goes down the tubes, who cares if the US defaults on its loans made by China, who cares if the world economy collapses?????.
Maybe its time it did, it hasn't worked for so long and that corporate greed especially from the US has caused all the issues anyway, that maybe its time to start again, start a new system.
Historically look at the Japanese before and after WW2, when the US dropped bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki the Japanese economy collapsed and they had to change format and look how well it did them.
Maybe its about time we tried looking for a new way to live, and I'm sure that the ones that are the most vocal about trying to 'save' the current system are the ones with the most to lose and after they never have looked into finding alternatives have they? They keep flogging the same old dead horse hoping to make it stand, but guess what it never will but still they keep harping on about 'recovery', have you seen recovery yet? how's it working for you?.
I'd prefer a world where money isn't the end all and be all anyway, but you'll all just call me a dreamer with no idea. but if you do maybe you all should consider Humanities history, did our caveman ancestors have Dollar bills? or Pounds? or even Yen? No they didn't but they survived and prospered, maybe we will learn to do better next time too.
Bring on the collapse I say, it'll be a humbling experience but FFS Humanity needs it and it will survive.edit on 15/10/13 by DataWraith because: Additional text