Syria. Yikes. I think it's time to restock ...

reply to post by Dreine


Yeah, I figured that would fall under #3 civil unrest, but I get where you are coming from. Point is, no outside force will cause the U.S. to collapse, it will indeed be an internal implosion if it comes down to it IMO.

Originally posted by Dreine
I hate hate HATE all this doom porn, but things are getting way too out of hand.

Ditto. Over the years I've heard 'this is it' more times than I can count. But Syria has made me
sit up and take notice. It's really tense and the idiots in charge of the different countries and groups
all are making the wrong decisions ....

reply to post by Esrom Escutcheon Esquire


knowledge is key good planning is important but also learn the trails less traveled as those would be best to use.

Originally posted by Wookiep
reply to post by Dreine

 

Yeah, I figured that would fall under #3 civil unrest, but I get where you are coming from. Point is, no outside force will cause the U.S. to collapse, it will indeed be an internal implosion if it comes down to it IMO.

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I concur completely, my friend.

The erosion of this country from the inside is almost complete. It won't be very long before the tinder is lit, I'm afraid.

IF the "balloon" goes up in Syria, the first thing I'm going to do, ASAP, is top of my gas tank.

The way I figure it, the first impact we in the US are likely to feel is a dramatic rise in gasoline prices. If the Suez canal is blocked, or if Iran decides to bock the straits (or both outlets are compromised simultaneously!) fuel prices will go through the roof, even with US strategic reserves being released.

I live only 2 miles from work, so a full tank will last me about a month, if I'm careful.

In a pinch, I could walk to work, or take public transit, but until gas hits approximately $8 USD per gallon it's cheaper to drive. I figure gas won't get that expensive until/unless ME oil is completely shut off for at least a month.

That gives me about a month to stock up on food/supplies as much as I can.

Although I do work for a government agency, and although our location is rather "high profile", I'm not terribly worried about "terrorist" actions: I don't live near a city center, and my job site is patrolled by armed security. And my personal work-station is rather "buried" near the "core" of the complex.

I do think that if the US and/or its allies go forward with any kind of large-scale attack on Syria, it will, ultimately lead to a very serious and likely, extended Economic World War of attrition, in which no current world power is likely to escape serious injury.

reply to post by Bhadhidar


Ahh that's another thing your post has reminded me.

I need a push bike.

Just something to speed up travel if petrol becomes too pricey.

And I know my work will suffer too. (Work in maintenance, and work vans do a lot of mileage and guzzle the petrol)

eee.

reply to post by spartacus699


Spartacus, from your reply (which didn`t make sense IMO) and your recent thread about lady di can i say please take a look at your sources of info before posting.

OP Syria is definately a time to consider restocking. I hope not but????

its more the same old song and dance .. things will go on like they always do .. if it does blow up then let the idiots slaughter each other over nothing since they never seem to learn and only think of mass murder for profit .. got everything I need out here and between my garden , fishing and the jungle manage just fine .. will sit back watch the show and document it for future generations to see what primitive savages people in the 21st century are to murder each other over nothing ..

Well .. I hope those that haven't been 'prepping' in the past, will at least take a look at what is happening and how big this could get ... and they do SOMETHING. Every little bit that people do will help when the balloon goes up. Even being self sustaining for a few months ....

It doesn't hurt anything to stock up. People don't have to be 'preppers' to get cases of water, and cases of canned goods, and stock up on dry goods like cereal from Target or Walmart. It's easy. And its not like it's a huge money investment or anything ...

Living out here in the country, having a well stocked home is pretty much a given, whether it be for a SHTF scenario or a bad blizzard or whatever, it just goes with the territory. We don't have much for stores around here, so our trips into the city always involve stocking up on non-perishables, non-food items, and the like.

But what's interesting is the other day we actually had a power outage for a couple of hours, so I ran around filling up several jugs of water, filled the bathtub, etc... just in case the power was out for too long and we lost water pressure... the town's backup generator for water pump service is only good for about 15 hours.

Anyways, what I realized is that the one thing we aren't "prepped" enough for is water supply.

We depend on town water and sewage service, and have no backup plan in place should that supply service come to a halt. Not a good thing.

So now I find myself chewing over ideas of what to do for that scenario, and making the proper preparations for it.

... I hate not having all of my bases covered.

War is Coming - My Warning to My Family

I feel pressed to let you know this Syria war thing is about to blow – and it won’t be pretty. They may need to stage another 9/11 type thing to get the population behind it but either way they’re preparing to go in and soon. China and Russia have said they won’t allow it, so it could escalate quickly into something ridiculous, but hopefully not.

Just a simple word of caution once again. As I’ve said before, please get food supplies, water supplies and access routes to friends and what you’ll need in place; and be ready for anything. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Food is good, supplies are good, preparation is good.

I don't really see any reason to panic. As I have said many times survival training and preparation is mostly from the neck up. Understanding how your going to adjust to not having things is more important than what things you actually have. Material things will and do run out-are you prepared mentally to adjust to a lack of stimulation from things you use everyday now? Things that you sublimely suggest "I could never do without" I don't even need to list what they are.

Humans are barbarians and they are conquers, but they are also survivalist in the purest sense of the word. If we weren't I would not be writing this.

I always think of the Lewis and Clark diaries in which they no longer wanted any of the comforts they dragged along with them. They wanted to make their own out of what they found around each new vista they visited.

It's mind over matter-as silly as it sounds that is really all there is to it. Having 5 buckets of dried beans rather than 4 is not going to make much difference when you hang yourself from a tree because you are so lost and lonely and death seems so much more comforting that going on.

This post goes to the UK forum posters out there but wheres safe haven in the UK if SHTF probably wont even near that just yet but where is the best place to get away. My friend says Orkney and Shetland may be safe haven if you want to escape closer to home there a few very rural small towns in scotland out in the sticks or if you got the dollar get yourself a flight down under Aussie's seem to be keeping out of this or Canada since they are a peace keep country.

Key point targets seem to be in case of a NW exchange

are big industrial cities like Sheffield, Nottingham, London

As far as I know.

However this is just incase the SHTF.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
War is Coming - My Warning to My Family

I feel pressed to let you know this Syria war thing is about to blow – and it won’t be pretty. They may need to stage another 9/11 type thing to get the population behind it but either way they’re preparing to go in and soon. China and Russia have said they won’t allow it, so it could escalate quickly into something ridiculous, but hopefully not.

Just a simple word of caution once again. As I’ve said before, please get food supplies, water supplies and access routes to friends and what you’ll need in place; and be ready for anything. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Food is good, supplies are good, preparation is good.

I do not expect "The End" to come anytime soon.

That being said, in light of what may be about to erupt, I'd like to take this opportunity to wish you all the best of luck, and to thank you all for the many hours of intellectual stimulation you have given me.

I have come, finally to realize that due to health requirements for which I cannot prepare for (required Rx's have a limit on the number and amount of refills available), and for which I must depend on a fully functional pharmaceutical infrastructure, I am not likely to be one of the "long-term" survivors if the S really does HTF.

I figure I could make it six to twelve months, tops, without some of the things I need, less if the social and physical deprivations become severe, as a result of this looming madness we are being drawn into.

I am hopeful that some Sane way out of all this will be found before it is too late, but...


if this need be Farewell, then before I am no longer capable of saying it, Farewell my friends.

Basher Al Assad is a conventional dictator in the style of the Presidente of a Banana Republic or Kleptocratic Despot. Assad has more in common with the Ole Shah of Iran than he does with the Ulammat currently running that place.

This means, Assad doesn't rely on terror "sleeper cells" beyond his borders; he will use more James Bond-style espionage, and conventional military backed by special forces. He Almost certainly cannot stike the US homeland militarily (or even Europe) and certainly has no meaningful terror-network in place.

Other than the "fallout" from a world war, there's not much to prep against here....

Other than $4 oil.

Well. I'm just not prepared..mainly a money issue. Not happy with my location either...if WWIII than Vegas is toast Nellis, McCarran, this place is a hub to everywhere..especially Tonapah and 51.

Looking on the bright side of things, ammo is back on the shelves. Whew.

There was a minute there where I couldn't find anything, it didn't bother me much as I had already been stockpiling. But now it's available again in limited quantities.

It is that time of year for us anyway, but yes, it's hard not to read the writing on the wall. The entire world is a huge powder keg at this point and just seems to continue to get more volatile.

I prefer to start winter ready to make it through on our own. We may get tired of fish and potatoes by the end of the winter but it is better than the alternative if something major does happen.

I have also noticed that in recent years things seem to escalate in general right before winter hits the northern hemisphere. I personally don't think that is by sheer chance. Surviving any catastrophe during the winter would take a larger toll on any population.

I'm also going to be checking first aid supplies and other necessity items as well, just to make sure our bases are covered.

Thanks for the reminder, I guess this is one more thing to occupy myself with over the next couple of weeks.

Originally posted by woodsmom
I prefer to start winter ready to make it through on our own.

Well, that's the thing. For us in the city I just considered my 'stocking up' to be early winter shopping. Now, if nothing happens, I don't have to go out and get canned goods at all for the winter. Less exposure during flu season. So it's a win/win.

reply to post by CranialSponge


We have a 35 gallon barrel full in our crawl space and a freeze proof hand pump for our personal well. Food can be hunted, grown, scavenged etc. but you are right without water, there isn't much you can do.

They may have water barrels available at your local water plant. That's where I got mine, they held potassium chloride I believe, and clean up super easy. It was a free way to store a larger quantity of water. A commercially purchased rain barrel would also work great I would imagine.