Mayor asking Seattle businesses to go ‘gun-free’

reply to post by wrabbit2000


But remember, everyone that has a firearm is a "Law abiding gun owner".

Gun nuts believe that anything done with a firearm is perfectly legal, because any law that "infringes" in a "Law abiding gun owner's" right to bear arms is Unconstitutional.

So, those murders, rapes, assaults, robberies all done with firearms? To "Law abiding gun owners" those are perfectly legit as the laws that make those crimes illegal actually infringe on gun rights.

Originally posted by ausername


That all works fine until the armed criminals figure out which businesses are "gun-free"

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You make a very good point... what is a solution? I know that I don't know what a solution would be.

Who carrying a gun is a criminal...and who carrying a gun is a law abiding citizen and is carrying one for protection.

Also too...many who do and will commit criminal behavior...may be legally licensed gun owners.

So...if a lot of businesses don't want guns in their establishments and ban legal gun owners from entering...then ya criminals will know better which places to target.

I give the Mayor of Seattle A+ for effort; but I think this may backfire.

LOL!

The thread headline SHOULD read: "Mayor asking Seattle businesses to become victims of robbery".

Why can't the liberals back off? They don't have logic or facts on their side. Results from dozens of studies show that as private gun ownership increases, crime decreases. In fact, this was supported by the very study that Obama requested!

More proof of two adages; a.) there is no cure for stupid and b.) liberalism is a mental disorder.

Sheeesh!

Originally posted by CB328
I'm glad to see some people having morals and guts to stand up for them. We need a lot more people and organizations in this country to stand up against the gun worship disease that is crippling our nation. I like how the gun people claim this will upset customers. Good luck trying to find gun fanatics in downtown Seattle.

seattletimes.com...

Off to an early start trying to stir up the pond eh? Nice job.
Even the liberals I know in Seattle have guns.

Gotta go worship my guns now.

Originally posted by HauntWok
reply to post by wrabbit2000

 

But remember, everyone that has a firearm is a "Law abiding gun owner".

Gun nuts believe that anything done with a firearm is perfectly legal, because any law that "infringes" in a "Law abiding gun owner's" right to bear arms is Unconstitutional.

So, those murders, rapes, assaults, robberies all done with firearms? To "Law abiding gun owners" those are perfectly legit as the laws that make those crimes illegal actually infringe on gun rights.

Care to show me one CCW carrying citizen (proven as a background checked, law abiding gun owner) or anyone else who is legal, law abiding and shares your opinion on that??? I've never...not one time...heard a legal gun owner make a statement like that. Literally...not once.

I did find this on the net a few minutes ago though, and I think it sums this up quite nicely.



Gun Free Zones are safe working areas for criminals and spree killers. OSHA would approve.

reply to post by wrabbit2000

Care to show me one CCW carrying citizen (proven as a background checked, law abiding gun owner) or anyone else who is legal, law abiding and shares your opinion on that??? I've never...not one time...heard a legal gun owner make a statement like that. Literally...not once.

Just absolutely every single one that thinks that because of their guns, and somehow the Declaration of Independence. That they have the absolute right to go out and slaughter constitutionally elected officials because they feel that their gun rights are being slightly violated.

Here's one for ya, remember Sharron Angle?

www.huffingtonpost.com...

Originally posted by caladonea

Originally posted by ausername


That all works fine until the armed criminals figure out which businesses are "gun-free"

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You make a very good point... what is a solution? I know that I don't know what a solution would be.

The solution here is simple, Mayors should stick to the really important issues like controlling the size of sugary drinks and leave the gun issues up to the people to decide.

reply to post by HauntWok


Well, if we want to talk about Politicians and not citizens? Heck, I can come up with as many quotes as anyone, from either side (now that I've come to really detest them both, this can be fun) and they'll show BOTH sides are about as ignorant, misinformed and outright pandering to whatever audience they happen to be standing in at the time.

I said law abiding..not Politician.

Okay tho...we want to just talk in meaningless generalities? Cool.... Democrats hate guns, want to take every one of them and see us armed with, at best, shotguns and squirrel guns. Want a few quotes to back that? I certainly can find them quickly enough and from National figures over the years, too.

Is saying all democrats are gun hating Nazi toads any better than what you just generalized about gun owners seemingly holding armed criminals as equal to themselves for firearms protections? Both statements are so blatantly misinformed and really? Outright hateful as to boggle the mind. The difference is...I made mine in sarcasm to illustrate a point. You actually meant what you said.

reply to post by wrabbit2000


The only difference between a "Law abiding gun owner" and a Gun toting criminal is that the "Law abiding gun owner" either hasn't got caught committing a crime with a gun yet, or hasn't gotten around to committing a crime with a gun yet.

I used to be very pro gun, till I talked to gun rights advocates and realized that they were completely insane and had to drop my pro gun stance as to not be sucked into the well of insanity and firearms that is the life of the pro gun crowd.

Gun rights advocates have completely shot my faith in humanity, and my trust that any human can be trusted with a firearm of any kind. I would rather hand a gun over to a cracked up chimpanzee than to a gun rights advocate, and that's the truth.

Originally posted by HauntWok
reply to post by wrabbit2000

 

The only difference between a "Law abiding gun owner" and a Gun toting criminal is that the "Law abiding gun owner" either hasn't got caught committing a crime with a gun yet, or hasn't gotten around to committing a crime with a gun yet.

I used to be very pro gun, till I talked to gun rights advocates and realized that they were completely insane and had to drop my pro gun stance as to not be sucked into the well of insanity and firearms that is the life of the pro gun crowd.

Gun rights advocates have completely shot my faith in humanity, and my trust that any human can be trusted with a firearm of any kind. I would rather hand a gun over to a cracked up chimpanzee than to a gun rights advocate, and that's the truth.

This is the most ignorant blather that I've ever wasted my time reading. Incoherent, dissembling garbage!

If your last paragraph is the truth, then YOU are one of those people that legal gun owners agree should not own firearms - you are clearly unwell mentally and not fit to take on such a responsibility.

reply to post by kozmo


Hehe, and you know whats funny?
If push came to shove and these anti-gunners tried to take guns by force, what do you think they would have to do?
They would either take up arms themselves or get slaughtered.
My bet is that in all their arrogance, they would sound much like so many governments have sounded, well take your arms by force so that we can control them ourselves, for all our sakes, of course

reply to post by Sharingan


Right? I know!

I've posted this hundreds of times... The irony of a bunch of unarmed idealists coming for the arms of legal Constitutionalists isn't lost on me. We have an undeniable right to defend ourselves, our families and our neighbors. I will be very interested in seeing how these idealists plan on disarming us. A use of force would be the epitome of hypocrisy and do nothing but prove our point and steel our resolve!

reply to post by kozmo


For the most part they have the control of their very own "warrior class" who will happily kick in doors and shoot men, women and children to enforce whatever law you ask them too.

Bloomberg has been on record bragging about his personal army in the NYPD.

They're delusional of course but that doesnt mean there arent enough psychos and obedient slaves to create some short-term chaos.

When's the last time a SWAT team refused to serve a no-knock on some family for a non-violent bureaucratic crime?

Until their bodies start stacking up it's all fun and games for them.

reply to post by HauntWok

The only difference between a "Law abiding gun owner" and a Gun toting criminal is that the "Law abiding gun owner" either hasn't got caught committing a crime with a gun yet, or hasn't gotten around to committing a crime with a gun yet.

Well thank you for calling me and roughly 100 MILLION other Americans little more than latent criminals who just haven't gotten around to shooting anyone yet.

Really? You REALLY just said that, didn't you? That blows my mind for the mean spirited nature of it and outright misrepresentation it gives. You REALLY believe 1/3rd of this nation is criminal at heart and just hasn't found the opportunity to show it yet? Geeze...

reply to post by wrabbit2000


Don't worry, many in that "1/3 of the nation", are just waiting for the second american revolution so that they can mow down their fellow countrymen with impunity in the name of "freedom".

I read their posts every day, every time they dust off the Declaration of Independence and parade it out as their own personal licence to kill their fellow Americans, every time they make thinly veiled threats about our elected officials, every time they only post half of the 2nd Amendment and completely ignore the other half as if it doesn't exist, they push me more and more to the anti gun side of this issue.

The reasons for their want of bloodshed in the streets vary, but each and every one of them wants to take a human life. Each and every one of them are just waiting for the day they can unload a hail of bullets into whatever "enemy" they can imagine. Be it a criminal who is attempting to mug them, or a government employee trying to do his job. Each and every gun rights advocate is just waiting impatiently for the day they can watch the light fade from someone's eyes as their target takes their final breath.

And that's why I can't be pro gun. I simply cannot be on the side with homicidal maniacs feverishly building up their courage with the help of whatever hand cannon they can get their hands on, until the "day of reckoning" comes in their minds, and they take to the streets blowing away "the evil liberals, commies, socialists, (or whatever portion of the population they deeply hate with every fibre of their being)" and somehow feeling justified in doing so.

So I applaud the mayor, for asking businesses to go gun free. He's not passing a law, he's making a plea to sanity.

Yep just gave the criminals who do carry guns a very target rich environment with a huge neon saying 'come rob me'

And:

Originally posted by HauntWok
reply to post by wrabbit2000

 

But remember, everyone that has a firearm is a "Law abiding gun owner".

Gun nuts believe that anything done with a firearm is perfectly legal, because any law that "infringes" in a "Law abiding gun owner's" right to bear arms is Unconstitutional.

So, those murders, rapes, assaults, robberies all done with firearms? To "Law abiding gun owners" those are perfectly legit as the laws that make those crimes illegal actually infringe on gun rights.

Why do you go to every gun related thread and say the same thing?

Think there is someone actually dumb enough to believe this ?

As if must have a very low opinion of ME and gun owners because as of yet we haven't gone around shooting up places, or people.

What nonsense.

reply to post by neo96

As if must have a very low opinion of ME and gun owners because as of yet we haven't gone around shooting up places, or people.

Key word there "yet"

I'm just waiting for the headline to read. "Madman slaughters dozens in mass shooting, claims victims were liberals taking away his gun rights."

reply to post by CB328


So the moronic Major is jeopardizing the safety of the private establishments when going after law abiding citizens that have the right to exercises their second amendment making them susceptible to violent crimes by those individuals elements in society that are criminal and will not be stopped by the wishes of the moron Major because they don't give a crap to begin with.



I am sure that Seattle enjoy a great economy when businesses can afford to thin out their costumers.

Originally posted by HauntWok
So, those murders, rapes, assaults, robberies all done with firearms? To "Law abiding gun owners" those are perfectly legit as the laws that make those crimes illegal actually infringe on gun rights.

Honest question: Do you actually believe that or are you just trying to be an ass in this thread? Each of those crimes is already illegal, firearm or no firearm. Also, if you've got a rapist or a burglar do you really believe stricter gun control laws will stop them in any way? Is the piece of crap going to suddenly say "Oh snap! My gat isn't legal so I better not break it out when I rob this 7/11!" and leave the firearm behind?