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Originally posted by abeverage
So I guess all those "Conspiracy Nuts" that said the Plant was leaking and this was worse then we were being told were right?
Hmmm does anyone really need any more proof of the MSM and lies we are told?
Radiation from Japan rained on Berkeley, California, during recent storms at levels that exceeded drinking water standards by 181 times. A rooftop water monitoring program managed by the University of California at Berkeley’s Department of Nuclear Engineering detected substantial spikes in rain-borne iodine-131 during those torrential downpours. The levels exceeded federal drinking water thresholds, known as Maximum Contaminant Levels -- or MCLs -- by as much as 181 times or 18,100%. Iodine-131 is one of the most cancer-causing toxic radioactive isotopes spewed when nuclear power plants are in meltdown.
Originally posted by bottleslingguy
reply to post by Lone12
you're the one who asked if what you said made sense. it didn't. doesn't mean you aren't on to something it just means you have to work a little harder to make your point coherent to others. Try to string those fragments together and explain what you mean. Communication shouldn't become a guessing game if you want to be understood.
TEPCO knew about water flow two years ago
A spokesperson for Tokyo Electric Power Company says the company has known for the past 2 years that a massive amount of groundwater was flowing beneath the Fukushima Daiichi power plant.
Masayuki Ono said on Friday that TEPCO experts estimated hundreds of tons of the water could reach the ocean daily.
Ono said the estimate was based on rough records of groundwater that TEPCO workers had collected.
Until last month, TEPCO officials had denied the possibility that contaminated groundwater was leaking into the ocean.
Ono said he is unable to explain why it took two years to disclose this fact.
Originally posted by Taissa
Also, do searches on radiation that has been found in milk and other foods, especially in California. Again, no one wants to hear of it. Imagine what is going to happen now?
Originally posted by Taissa
Originally posted by abeverage
So I guess all those "Conspiracy Nuts" that said the Plant was leaking and this was worse then we were being told were right?
Hmmm does anyone really need any more proof of the MSM and lies we are told?
Yes. And when scientists in Berkeley CA reported how much radiation they found in rain water, they were brushed off and told to stop fear mongering the people.
Radiation from Japan rained on Berkeley, California, during recent storms at levels that exceeded drinking water standards by 181 times. A rooftop water monitoring program managed by the University of California at Berkeley’s Department of Nuclear Engineering detected substantial spikes in rain-borne iodine-131 during those torrential downpours. The levels exceeded federal drinking water thresholds, known as Maximum Contaminant Levels -- or MCLs -- by as much as 181 times or 18,100%. Iodine-131 is one of the most cancer-causing toxic radioactive isotopes spewed when nuclear power plants are in meltdown.
www.businessinsider.com...
Now just think, this warning came two years ago. No one wants to hear it though. They want to slip back into their comfortable existence and shut out the reality of this thing.
Originally posted by f4cgv2
Ummm....
I have a question of these "12 average pools of radioactive stuff" every day in the whole pacific ocean...
Is there any chance that the radioactive stuff in the water is so heavy that it will "just" sink down instead of slowly poisoning the whole ocean?
In other words, could it be that it settles on the bottom of the ocean, thereby sparing us some trouble (hopefully!)
I always thought that Uranium, Plutonium, Caesium etc. are much heavier than water...
Am I on something?
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by ShadeWolf
When you say the nuclear option won't work, I wonder if you're considering everything involved? In looking at this yesterday, I had looked over a good deal of material regarding nuclear blasts and known impact from tests run in the past. The general agreement is that nuclear weapons are not good at outright destruction outside the fireball because they generally have been detonated above ground (As Hiroshima and Nagasaki both were) and frankly, the fireball itself is very small when I really got to looking at it.
100 Kiloton is enormous for power released and many times larger than the ones used in World War II. Yet? Less than 400 meters in diameter would constitute the fireball and space where total destruction through dis assembly at the atomic level takes place. I'd read they are considered very effective in Chemical/Biological accident situations to simply erase what had been there with no further threat of release.
Now we know by physics that material never actually vanishes, despite the reports saying what is within the small radius does basically cease to exist at millions of degrees fahrenheit. What would it actually do, is what I wonder whether anyone has tested? The matter which used to be within the 400 meters becomes....what exactly?
Fall out would be a nasty thing ...but nastier than 300 million gallons a day for months or years flowing into open ocean water? Sooner or later we'll have to look at some VERY nasty options here if the situation keeps getting worse rather than at least become stable.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by ShadeWolf
When you say the nuclear option won't work, I wonder if you're considering everything involved? In looking at this yesterday, I had looked over a good deal of material regarding nuclear blasts and known impact from tests run in the past. The general agreement is that nuclear weapons are not good at outright destruction outside the fireball because they generally have been detonated above ground (As Hiroshima and Nagasaki both were) and frankly, the fireball itself is very small when I really got to looking at it.
100 Kiloton is enormous for power released and many times larger than the ones used in World War II. Yet? Less than 400 meters in diameter would constitute the fireball and space where total destruction through dis assembly at the atomic level takes place. I'd read they are considered very effective in Chemical/Biological accident situations to simply erase what had been there with no further threat of release.
Now we know by physics that material never actually vanishes, despite the reports saying what is within the small radius does basically cease to exist at millions of degrees fahrenheit. What would it actually do, is what I wonder whether anyone has tested? The matter which used to be within the 400 meters becomes....what exactly?
Fall out would be a nasty thing ...but nastier than 300 million gallons a day for months or years flowing into open ocean water? Sooner or later we'll have to look at some VERY nasty options here if the situation keeps getting worse rather than at least become stable.