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Anonymous Web-host shut down, owner arrested; Tor users compromised by Javascript exploit

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posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 03:48 PM

Originally posted by Echtelion

Originally posted by LoneCloudHopper2

Originally posted by MidnightTide
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

People just have to understand this isn't the movies - you will be tracked and what you do on the net will be monitored. Perhaps this is a good thing, perhaps people will stop this anonymous protesting and will actually start doing SOMETHING for real.

My thoughts exactly! Hiding isn't much of a stand. Of course, hackers have to be anonymous, but protesting in masks is not the way forward. We need to practice civil resistance if we're going to get anywhere, like Gandhi did. Maybe form a circle around government, get as many cameras on it as possible for YouTube and as much media attention as possible. Everyone will be arrested and hopefully not nicely (we all know about the mistreatment of protestors in many public events but most people are still mainstream-minded and need to see more of it.) Like soldiers, people who care about the rights and freedoms of their countries and their children need to make a stand for the Greater Good.

As for this FreedomWeb shutdown, it's hard to say if or how child pornography was involved. If they really were involved with it, then I'm glad they were taken down and I hope they get the book thrown at them. If it was a setup or an exaggeration (one or two people using FreedomWeb might have hosted sites with illegal images unbeknownst to them for all we know,) then it's more of the same BS and corruption that we've been used to. Either way, this probably has more to do with fighting truth-seeking hackers and whistleblowers than anything else. The big bankers no doubt wanted Bitcoin stopped. There is no law against it yet and anyone can start a new online currency, but they no doubt want it crushed and they probably have Zionist lobbyists in goverment officials' faces right now to entice them to legislate online currency away. I'm not sure how this could be possible, because tickets and fake money (from Monopoly to Disney World) is popular, but I'd bet anyone that they'll either find a way to stop it or take control over all online currency.

So then only State agents have the privilege to hide and be anonymous?

I think you have neglected this issue. Anonymity is the same issue than firearms... if only the State and its affiliate corporations have the monopoly over them, that's very bad news, for you and everybody else.

Of course Freedom Hosting is an instance of misuse of anonymity (like you can misuse a gun to kill innocent people... like the police does in full impunity these days), but that doesn't discredit all the other ethical and rational use of it, especially in a totalitarian fascist State where people are being wiretapped, surveiled and filmed. This is the purpose of efforts like the Tor project, even if perhaps failed... to protect us against Big Brother.

No, I don't have a problem with anonymity and I pointed that out in my comment. I was just saying that it's no way to stand up to government on the streets. Hackers who reveal corruption to the populace are heroes in my eyes as they are to many others.

posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 04:25 PM
they strip away the last vestiges of freedom you have left, telling you once again it's protecting children and people just believe it...
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posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 04:32 PM

Originally posted by Philippines
I really don't understand... If the government is openly spying on all internet use, then it should be very easy to find any cyber crimes committed, and trace it down to the person(s) and/or location(s). This sounds like making a big show for a chilling effect.

Everything you ever do on the internet is recorded somewhere.

That's the point of Tor. It is far from easy. It is doable, and it is certainly easy for those that were exploited in this case but not easy to the extent that they can scale it up and know everything that happens with everyone. It is quite resource intensive to actually track down anything protected by Tor. And with very careful use, extremely difficult. So unless a person is already suspected of something, they should have a high confidence that they are anonymous.


posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 05:06 PM
They have been tracking people on TOR for years. Here is a TV show that is based on using it and using military to do the high tech end and law enforcement then scoop them up for a arrest. Maybe you have heard of it before.

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posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 05:08 PM
I have not used TOR in a while. Because of the disabling of Java. So i went to using VPN. Having said that expect VPN software to be compromised and the company owners to get framed up for child porn or some other federal scam. The PTB are stopping at nothing to spy on everyone and crush all those who stand in the way.

posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 05:23 PM

Originally posted by JBA2848
They have been tracking people on TOR for years. Here is a TV show that is based on using it and using military to do the high tech end and law enforcement then scoop them up for a arrest. Maybe you have heard of it before.

Hows that at all relevant? They hardly need to track anyone who willingly identifies themselves. Hows that even related to Tor?

posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 05:26 PM
reply to post by DarthFazer

start your vpn and the start a virtual machine start a new operating system then start a new vpn and run it through the other one. Hack the system use the software in a unorthodox way in order to cause problems for them. If you use encryption. Encrypt it then remove the tag on the end of the file and encrypt it with a different software again. Jack the system in a unorthodox way to cause them a headache.

posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 05:27 PM
reply to post by PsykoOps

They used to TOR on many of the different TV shows he has done. SABU screen name even popped up on screen with the catch a credit card thief. So how is it related. SABU S?A?BaitUnit SABU.
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posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 05:42 PM
The original button hack used in Firefox TOR hack was created at MIT to catch predators they said. MIT bragged about creating it and then when Anonymous hacking went crazy it got dropped into the wild to catch people. All along the Anonymous hacking was faked by Homeland Security paid hacker contractors using CISSP and EH certificates as a qualified government hacker. Such as Boris of Jaded Security hacking the Florida Voters Database and leaking it. But he got in trouble but he pulled his UN policies as a right to do what he did. So he is still hacking away doing the same thing. And all governments are beginning to lose control of it. The NATO UN multiple countries working together is causing problems all over the place. Just look at the mess the NSA has created for itself. Or should we say power to do what they want no matter who the person is. Press Congress President CIA Director it does not matter they want to know what they are doing. And who are they sharing it with and why? Military Complex has nothing on the new Intelligence Complex with no one country controlling it.

posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 05:50 PM

Originally posted by rayuki
well any idiot using java inside tor deserves to be rounded up and put in a concentration camp lol.

java is a hackers dream.

Java is a hackers nightmare. Hackers dream in Perl. And its about a _javascript exploit, not Java. I know you didnt take CompSci 101 but this still needs to be emphasised:

Java = Compiled Language
Javascript = Scripting Language

Now back on topic: If you want anonymity, use a VPN. If you want a secure browser us SRware Iron. If you want to not worry about having the gestapo kicking down your front door--then the best way is to not have a front door.

posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 05:50 PM

Originally posted by fr33kSh0w2012

Originally posted by VoidHawk
I tried tor a while back as a way of getting around the "This video is blocked to your country" message on some youtube vids.

Me thinks I'll be doing some serious scanning of my drives.

ETA: Just read it again, de-anonymize, Nothing for me to worry about.
edit on 4-8-2013 by VoidHawk because: (no reason given)

Use Helper to download those YT vids blocked in your country it sometimes works
edit on 5/8/13 by fr33kSh0w2012 because: (no reason given)


posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 05:55 PM

Anonymous Web-host shut down, owner arrested; Tor users compromised by Javascript exploit
After the whole Snowden and NSA thing... Ya, right.... like we didn't expect -that- to happen. Hilarious.
edit on 5/8/2013 by MarkJS because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 07:56 PM
reply to post by RageAgainstFascism

Just change your MAC to a generic one and connect to an unprotected wireless network and there is your anonymity

I had the same thought. Don't get caught with the matching MAC. Just about anything else other than getting into someone's wired network leaves some trail back to you if you pay an ISP.

posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 07:57 PM
What's the true picture of this? By that I mean the Web host has been arrested for supporting CP users knowingly, in that case a fair cop, since there are laws against propagation of CP from whatever source.
After that though, there is the matter of profiling which could be considered pure invention and has been done in that way as a means to an end in the past, which is also the area that Snowden is most likely coming from.
So, while profiling is not new, it could be so much more devastating via a keyboard in the hands of a twat, or a vested interest for that matter. Of course the next thing will be a charter for the internet, let me see now, Thou shalt not......

posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 08:50 PM
If you think Tor is going to have any appreciable effect on Bitcoin, get a cyber currency education. Bitcoin is so way beyond being affected by most singular trading exchanges. The contingencies are currently limitless, which is testament to why Bitcoin is as resilient as is now. This is not the stock market, and currently the PTB has no effective way of pulling the reigns in on any part of it. Presently it is too risky for them, because they cannot control it. It may not always be that way.

posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 11:24 PM

And yet you carry around a virtual currency in your pocket everyday....Your money is just paper backed up by "faith and credit" whats the difference?

The difference is, after an earthquake, hurricane, tornado or volcano eruption that disables power, I can still pull out a wad of bills and pay for "stuff". What will I say when I need to buy "stuff" with bitcurrency when there is no power "oh hey excuse me, trust me im super rich digitally and I promise I can get you paid, I just need to get some power and a Wi-Fi signal". I can physically hand over fiat, bullion, or any barter to any other person in exchange for "stuff" (whatever you want stuff to be). Paying in bit currency demands electrical power, an that both parties have some access to the internet. Tell me what good is that after a disaster.

And seriously, am I the only person that has found tor useful for bypassing virtually all embedded advertisement during web browsing?? Its probably my primary use for it besides dodging corporate market trackers building profiles on your info..

posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 11:37 PM
reply to post by DYepes

Only if someone is willing to take your cash, which is not a given at all. After a few days power outage in upstate NY, in the dead of a huge week long winter storm, local store owner wouldn't take cash anymore, he only wanted kerosine or gasoline so he could heat his house or run his generator.

"Currency" is only worth something if someone values it. In an emergency, water, canned goods, bullets, gasoline are all worth way more than any fiat currency.
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posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 01:08 AM
If you run TOR with Java script enabled, for normal, www. browsing and use details that can identify you, you're doing anonymous browsing wrong.

The paedophile bust(s) are the MSM press release designed to placate privacy activists. The real targets here are whistle-blowers and dissidents.
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posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 01:48 AM

Originally posted by roadgravel
reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter

Maybe bonus points since some are speculating it is psyops to create fear for TOR.

They want to create fear period. That's how they maintain control. The government doesn't like independent thinkers and people who ask pertinent questions. They want obedient workers who don't question their ethics and methods.
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posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 03:11 AM
There's another issue here that everyone is missing. The guy arrested was in Ireland and not a US citizen. It was the FBI that arrested him.

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