Obama creating 'Behavioral Insights Team' ?

reply to post by ThinkingCap


Totally agre Cap, that's the name of the game though right??? Each president lays the foundation for the next one to continue the downward spiral? Call me crazy, thinking of the next president "not" voted in by the people but placed in power by the "mega corps" is what's worrying me most.

reply to post by beezzer

What do you see as beneficial with this type of program?

Absolutely nothing. It's a waste of time and money. There isn't anything they could possibly do that they aren't doing already, with the exception of sending out daily e-mails to everyone with an e-mail address or texting everyone with a cell phone.

reply to post by ProfessorChaos


The simple release of a story like this is in itself a mind screw. Its a smack in the face of independent thought and a reiteration that they have contempt for the peoples collective cognitive independence. They are "Mad Men" seeking to sell ice to Eskimos.

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by beezzer

 

What do you see as beneficial with this type of program?

Absolutely nothing. It's a waste of time and money. There isn't anything they could possibly do that they aren't doing already, with the exception of sending out daily e-mails to everyone with an e-mail address.

It seems like you're ignoring the bigger picture here.

They're telling us that they're going to change our behaviors, that's not 'nothing'.

reply to post by ProfessorChaos


They can only influence us, they aren't capable of changing anything unless we want to be changed.

Originally posted by ProfessorChaos
It is amazing what this administration gets away with in the public eye, if this were done by Bush, there'd be blood in the streets by now.

Maybe that is because they have already been subtly influencing people's behavior.

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by ProfessorChaos

 

They can only influence us, they aren't capable of changing anything unless we want to be changed.

Obviously, you've never worked in sales. Sales is the art of making someone want something that they have absolutely no need for.

***ANALOGY ALERT***
The government has the best sales people working for them and every time they ring the doorbell and stand there with their suitcase full of 'Pocket Fishermen' and 'Sham-wows', the American people buy it, not because they need or want it, but because the salesman made them believe that they do.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by ProfessorChaos
It is amazing what this administration gets away with in the public eye, if this were done by Bush, there'd be blood in the streets by now.

Maybe that is because they have already subtly influencing people's behavior.

Absolutely.

reply to post by ProfessorChaos


The world is filled with salesmen and manipulators. We live side by side with them daily.

Maybe communities and colleges should offer free seminars on "How Not To Be Manipulated".

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by ProfessorChaos
It is amazing what this administration gets away with in the public eye, if this were done by Bush, there'd be blood in the streets by now.

Maybe that is because they have already subtly influencing people's behavior.

They threw everything they had at the 2nd amendment after Sandy Hook but none of the brow beating and name calling worked. Our society didn't bite full in on the thing. This is what confuses them. They want to know why or how they can approach the effort from a different angle.

Originally posted by ProfessorChaos

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by ProfessorChaos

 

They can only influence us, they aren't capable of changing anything unless we want to be changed.

Obviously, you've never worked in sales. Sales is the art of making someone want something that they have absolutely no need for.

***ANALOGY ALERT***
The government has the best sales people working for them and every time they ring the doorbell and stand there with their suitcase full of 'Pocket Fishermen' and 'Sham-wows', the American people buy it, not because they need or want it, but because the salesman made them believe that they do.

*cough*
Patriot Act
*cough*
Gun Control
*cough*
Amnesty
*cough*
Obamacare

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by ProfessorChaos

 

The world is filled with salesmen and manipulators. We live side by side with them daily.

Yes, that is true, but what people do not recognize is that the salesmen are no longer just selling household items or cars, they're selling ideologies, behaviors and laws.

The salesmen are running the country, and I couldn't begin to tell you how disturbing I find that fact to be.

reply to post by Logarock


Good point.

I suspect that that they've already studied and analyzed the book, "The Tipping Point", and it's just not working for them.

reply to post by ProfessorChaos

Yes, that is true, but what people do not recognize is that the salesmen are no longer just selling household items or cars, they're selling ideologies, behaviors and laws.

They've been doing that forever.

I suspect that they are trying to condition us for the fact that they are collecting every kind of information about us imaginable. I guarantee they know every purchase we're making on our credit/debit cards.

By the way, when making an alcohol purchase, has anyone had their driver's license scanned yet?

reply to post by ProfessorChaos




These 'nudge' analysts can also be seen as being Profiliers... by using the accumulated data mined material to profile ones past communication linking to what they are likely to access in the future...

such as one who links to dating services...then porn...then gambling... are likely to go down the path that will lead to weapons procurement, safety & security stuff, branching out to perhaps Preppers or Survivalist behaviors with like minded people...

go ahead an track your own set of behaviors in an experimental model... say a fundamentalist christian to begin with and create a plausable connecting pattern of interests to be found in their web sites accessed over time




You see how that the dark circles in govt agencies have alkready cut a trail that says that veterans, independent voters, Libertarians. Charasmatic christians are among the groups that are likely to be disruptive to government control programs, ergo ->> future terrotists



i would suggest that some individuals would be approached by govt agencies when their behavior patterns are still in the grey-zone (before becoming 'persons-of-interest') or going full tilt into the anti-government camp... that's what i think this program (led from a WH cabnet control center) is All About


out in plain sight, but the govt spin that the program is really a beneficial and positive., subliminal behavior 'nudging' instead of plain old Profiling which was deemed a non-productive infringment on persons personal rights... an abridgement of social 'affirmative action' and progressive thought that everyone-is-special even the jihadists

reply to post by ProfessorChaos


Is anyone really, truly surprised???
fightfiercely.com...

Anyone that doesn't question the Tyrant 0bama's background and how he came about this crap is ignorant or just a blind follower.

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by ProfessorChaos

 

By the way, when making an alcohol purchase, has anyone had their driver's license scanned yet?

I don't buy alcohol often, but I have yet to see that happen (and I live in one of the more socialistic states in the union, Massachusetts). It doesn't surprise me in the least, however.

Originally posted by macman
reply to post by ProfessorChaos

 

Is anyone really, truly surprised???
fightfiercely.com...

Anyone that doesn't question the Tyrant 0bama's background and how he came about this crap is ignorant or just a blind follower.

I'm not surprised at anything the government does these days, what surprises me (or, disgusts me, I should say), is the blind acceptance of these actions by the public in general.

reply to post by ProfessorChaos


Honestly, I was a little shocked too, but it happened to my sister in the last few weeks in the state of Missouri.

Here's another one...

I went to make a purchase at a Walgreen's in the last week and the cashier told me that I could get a discount on my purchases if I just gave him my phone number. I gave him my cell phone number and he repeated my name and address back to me. That will be part of the trap. If you want to save money on your purchases, just hand over your phone number.