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Originally posted by TKDRL
Saying a felon can't own a gun is BS. If it said a felon convicted of a crime using a gun, would be more acceptable.
Saying mentally ill people is BS. If they went into specifics, with proven facts about certain specific illnesses being more dangerous, that would be more acceptable
Originally posted by Phoenix
reply to post by TKDRL
As I understand it, a Felon can get their rights restored judicially after serving sentence, always been a push by liberals just so to restore voting rights for former felons but crickets chirp regarding same process vis a vis gun rights.
Originally posted by liejunkie01
When i was 17 I took 2 bicycles that didnt belong to me. Convicted when i was 18. Did my time and paid back the community that i had wronged....when i was 26 i got busted with a few pot plants....7 to be exact.....did my time and paid back the community to which i wronged.....
Excuse me, but im tired of all the "do gooders" dictating whats right and wrong for everyone......
I say go to hell with the nazi style rules that this country has turned to because of fear and political correctness.
Fear and political correctness has killed any chance at true freedom....were all slaves to the system. You people can be as optimistic as you want.....ive been singled out. I know how it feels....its too far gone.
At first glance, it may seem that the question of what rights and privileges a federal felon may lose or retain is easily answered. A closer look reveals a patchwork of disqualifications and restorations. The laws governing the same rights and privileges vary widely from state to state, as well as various federal preclusions from some essential rights. Convicted felons may lose essential rights, such as the right to hold a public office or to vote. Eligibility to earn a living and practice a profession may be restricted. And, in almost every state, as well as under federal law, convicted felons will either be restricted in or relinquish their right to carry or possess firearms. These disabilities and the collateral consequences that flow from a federal felony conviction can be explained as burdens that result from a conviction.
The majority of jurisdictions do, however, provide for a means of removing these burdens. Relief frequently comes automatically with the passing of time, or through an executive or judicial act that is often based on demonstrating that the defendant has been rehabilitated. Again, as with the disability itself, there is no general agreement on how the burdens are lifted. The road to relief must be evaluated on a state-by-state basis and in light of the few governing federal laws.
One of the major roadblocks to lifting restrictions on a federal felon is found in states that require a pardon for removal of state law disabilities.
A few examples of some of the states' procedures for restoration of certain civil rights will illuminate the variations. In Arizona, federal felons lose the right to vote, serve on a jury, hold a public office, and own a firearm (in the case of violent offenders) as a result of their conviction. The first-time offender felon has most of these rights automatically restored upon completion of his or her sentence (except for owning a firearm, which requires a court or administrative proceeding), but recidivists must apply to the court or obtain a pardon. Federal offenders are precluded from receiving state pardons, but can obtain automatic restoration or court relief.
Those ex-felons who find themselves in Vermont will have lost only the right to serve on a jury if they were sentenced to a period of imprisonment, but the right can be restored by pardon. The law of Vermont is still unsettled on the issue of whether federal offenders are eligible for state pardons.
Originally posted by crazyewok
Erm what wrong with takeing guns from felons?
I mean they are felons not like those guns will be used for good purposes right?
As far as menatly ill? Well depends on whats classed as menatly ? If it just cause you once had depression then no you should still be able to own a gun. If you have voices in you head telling you to kill everyone then yeah no gun.edit on 27-7-2013 by crazyewok because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by liejunkie01
reply to post by Xtrozero
Yes i am a felon. One of the bicycles was more than a $1,000. Anything over $300 is a felony.
Up to 4 pot plants is a misdameanor(spelling?) 5 and over is a felony.
I took two bikes like an idiot when i was younger. Ok my bad. I paid for them, paid the county, did some county time and did community service.... I grew some plants becausr I was tired of paying outrageous prices and dealing with shady people.....i had to get a lawyer because they told me i could face from 3 to 7 years in the slammer. I got on
Some crazy first offender probation. It is suppised to be off my record. But is it really. Its still listed when i look it up.
A few bad non violent decisions shouldnt stick with you like that. But it doesnt matter because some peopke think they are better than everyone else and think that they know whats best for everyone......its alright. .my voice doesnt count. So i can complain all I want ...its the cold hard truthedit on 28-7-2013 by liejunkie01 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by FreeEnergyChick
In order to stop a bad man with a gun, you need a good man with a gun. What are these liberal newsmen and journalists trying to say - that all mentally ill people are evil? give me a break!
Originally posted by oldmeatwad
New Push Tries to Confiscate Firearms From Felons, Mentally Ill
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Now some officials are accelerating efforts to seize those firearms. In recent months, the sheriff of Cook County, which includes Chicago, launched a gun-confiscation program; California began adding agents assigned to take away firearms; and New York enacted a law that paves the way for such a program.
edit on 27-7-2013 by oldmeatwad because: (no reason given)edit on 7/27/2013 by semperfortis because: Copy the EXACT Headline