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The Language of Vampyr

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posted on Sep, 11 2019 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: Direne

If we consider En-lil his closest association is with wind often as a metaphor for spirit, yet wind does not exist and neither does spirit, rather it is dynamic interactions such as fate, destiny and time, as related to the cult of En-lil, they are clearly not existential but relate to dynamic patterns between air currents of differing temperature and naturally doesn't relate directly to biology, thus if we are considering phenomena generated by flow of energy, not necessarily the energy itself and hence the divide, an individual resides within that and will experience such directly, as much as they will actual wind, i did not state the generation of choice is at the level of the individual but the actual choosing is.

The terminology and practise of religion is only an interface and some will establish better and more extensive connection than others, one shouldn't confuse the interface with actual reality, the interface could be considered a simulation, it is neither the person nor that which they connect with but an abstraction.

If we consider hobbyists such as the Free Masons and their activities in every town and city throughout the West they transform society according to their doctrines, but they are an interface that translates the imaginings of kabbalists and their supposed connection that presume to act as a hub, a very curious net-working, if this looks to be leading to a zombie Apocalypse one could perhaps re-consider the nature of those connections, perhaps they only connect to the dark web.




posted on Sep, 11 2019 @ 01:40 PM
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Fascinated. Something new to ponder. Commenting so I don't lose this.



posted on Sep, 11 2019 @ 04:02 PM
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a reply to: Direne

the thing I think about simulations is that every human simulation we make is based on what we percieve to be reality, we model the earth and the plants and animals even fantasy and and sci fi stuff its all based on our own reality.

Even if what we call reality is a simulation whoever or whatever made it had to base it on something and that something has to have looked like what we percieve to be reality.

So it had to be real at one point and at least we know it is or was beautiful.



posted on Sep, 11 2019 @ 05:20 PM
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a reply to: sapien82

Yes, sapien82, a simulation, any simulation, is always to the image and liking of the simulator. The problem with the simulation is that you, the one being simulated, have no choice to choose when to terminate the simulation. Those running the simulation decide when to terminate it, much as when you delete a file in your hard disk. You never ask the file whether it wants to be terminated or not. You simply press the Delete key.

a reply to: Madrusa


i did not state the generation of choice is at the level of the individual but the actual choosing is


The actual choosing is also a simulation of the act of choosing. So deep the simulation is. So perfect, so thoroughly crafted, so minutely engineered. The gods created a mirror, but they didn't like the image the mirror reflects back, so they wanted the mirror broken. Except that those tasked with the mission to break the mirror didn't break it. Satanael and Azazel disobeyed the command. Interesting enough Azazel was not a Watcher, he was a Nephilim, the first one being born from Lilith and Semjaza. It means he was not a human. He was a seed of the Watchers, the one who valued free will and hence was hated by the gods.


one shouldn't confuse the interface with actual reality


I agree. The simulators shouldn't confuse the interface with actual reality. They don't do it. But gods forget that for the simulated ones the simulation is their only Reality and they have the right to defend that Reality, even at the risk of neglecting the existence of simulators. Gods use messengers to interact with humans under the excuse that humans wouldn't stand their vision. In modern language the excuse is that there cannot be a disclosure because humans won't stand the truth.

I understand sometimes an interface is required, but my concern is about who owns and controls the interface. No interface, no interaction. Perhaps Giselians are tasked with that mission: to guarantee neither side, nor SV17q, nor aliens, take control of the interface. Or perhaps it is in their interest for an interaction to never happen.

Look at yourself in the mirror, Ninlil, what do you see?
No, don’t answer me now.
Think of that image and rejoice.
You are yourself, unique and very special.
As we all are, but many times just don’t realize.



posted on Sep, 11 2019 @ 05:50 PM
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a reply to: Direne

I notice that most scientists only ask and postulate "how" we could be living in a simulation, rather than "what if" and the ramifications that would have on the ego of humans.

Being told "you don't technically exist" would be something that would make society crumble, it would make disclosure of "aliens" seem like a walk in the park by comparison..



posted on Sep, 12 2019 @ 03:50 AM
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Is this why the buddhist monks chant mantras to the deceased in order to assist their soul in not being trapped here , the trick as the buddha calls it ?

I cant remember the exact passage from the tibetan book of the dead.

I remember from the documentary though the monks would chant to the recently deceased in order to help their soul to pass on and not be trapped in "reincarnation" or this simulation , I think they sit with the dead for 3 days repeating mantras so the soul will hear the mantra and not be trapped here in the material world.

Could it be the tibetans have found a way to be free from the simulation

as even suicide is just like hitting the restart button and you get a fresh new shell for the ghost in the machine



posted on Sep, 12 2019 @ 06:46 AM
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In the realm of ideas you can call things what you will, an illusion or simulation, neither concern greater reality, if a choice transpires in your mind that is your choice accountability and all, it is also the case that the choice will be determined by the nature of your mind, others might make different choice, a local choice for local people. Your story of the mirror also would reflect the attitude toward Vanir and the principle of the Divine incarnate, that such doctrines are evil, but again there's that supposed schism which is all in the mind.

In terms of an interface everyone has their own personal connection according to their own personal potential which again is down to nature, but that is reinforced through collective understanding, thus a religion helping to inform decision making and awareness of potential, the nature of that interface and what it can potentially connect with dependent upon the qualities of that collective and the strength of their tradition. A secret society will look to develop their own interface and not share it with anyone but given their nature that's going to be a limited hangout and they're welcome to it.



posted on Sep, 12 2019 @ 07:05 AM
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a reply to: Madrusa

there is also the possibility that what we call free will as it appears to us is actually governed by a higher set of laws which we do not have the capacity to understand or even be aware of which control our every choice and action although appearing to us as though we had chosen it ourselves.



posted on Sep, 12 2019 @ 07:08 AM
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originally posted by: pigsy2400
a reply to: Direne

I notice that most scientists only ask and postulate "how" we could be living in a simulation, rather than "what if" and the ramifications that would have on the ego of humans.

Being told "you don't technically exist" would be something that would make society crumble, it would make disclosure of "aliens" seem like a walk in the park by comparison..


What would that actually mean to someone , being told they dont technically exist even though we appear to be very real
I dont think it would really make much difference, we can love , we can sense , we can create
what is more real than that ?
We know nothing different , so I think it wont matter because we really have no context or frame of reference to compare , real reality , to simulated virtual reality of the matrix .

Only those who had been through the veil and witnessed real reality would then be able to make a judgement of the difference, or the tiny mistakes or glitches haha.



posted on Sep, 12 2019 @ 09:31 AM
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Objectively speaking you can reduce everything to a singularity call it the universe and deny any personal responsibility, on the other hand subjectively speaking you could reasonably claim to be the Universe and take credit for everything, either option is amazing, what people are more freaking out about these days though is that their governments and academic and religious institutions appear to be simulations created by those that believe it's all about illusion and perception management rather than substance, so when people start noticing how weird all that is they shift the blame onto the Universe and suggest that is the simulation.
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posted on Sep, 16 2019 @ 06:41 AM
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I think that is the greater question for me , how much responsibility do I have in this system , game, simulation

I am quite happy just being the background , but also happy if I had a role to play .



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