reply to post by Wrabbit2000
Ridicule is a debating tactic now? I hope people stop asking where the very clear sense of dislike bordering on hate comes from regarding
religion. We can't even have a reasonable debate about it without getting to throwing barbs like that.
Oh, dear. Do you mean my saying that your post was confused? That wasn't a barb; I thought I was stating the obvious! Look at what you wrote:
However, nor can Evolution be proven that way. Oh, Evolution is real alright...
That looks quite confused to me. If evolution is real, there is no need to prove it. Only propositions and hypotheses require proof. Facts are
I offer my apologies for any offence caused. Now, on with our conversation.
My personal belief is that it's been a combination of intelligent design coupled with life's adaptation to itself, each other and the
changing world over these billions of years. No one can know though and absolutely not well enough to make it a point to ridicule each other over
I am not sure what you mean by 'life's adaptation to itself', but I get the idea that you accept that life on Earth has evolved over time. You
believe God created the first life-forms, and has been at work modifying and elaborating them to suit a changing environment ever since – helping
natural selection along, so to speak.
It would be easy to show why this is most unlikely, but let's not go there. I would rather draw your attention to something I pointed out before:
that this constant intervention by an external power is unnecessary
. As has now been observed a great many times, with many different
life-forms and simulations under a variety of conditions, natural selection needs no help to do its work. There is no need to bring God into the
picture unless you specifically wish to put Him there. It seems clear, therefore, that you do wish it. You are uncomfortable with the idea of a
Godless universe and autonomous evolution, and propose a divine creator to settle the existential nausea these thoughts evoke in you.
This is all quite natural and understandable; many religious people do the same. They know too much to dismiss the theory of evolution by natural
selection out of hand, so they seek to broker a compromise between it and God. As you correctly point out, no-one can prove such beliefs right or
wrong. They are, however, unmistakably beliefs
. Your approach to the question of how life on Earth came to exist in so many different forms is
faith-based; in conceptual if not political terms, you are a creationist.
That is all I wished to make clear to you. Obviously, it has consequences; but we can discuss those another time.