reply to post by Wrabbit2000
I understand you hold a deep, hard and boundless passion of disgust if not hate for all things religious.
If you understand that, you didn't learn it from the post quoted. It is clear that what Barcs hates is creationism
. Creationism is not
religion. It is a political movement and, yes, a thoroughly hateful one.
You say you believe in a mix of creation and evolution. Do you mean that you believe the first replicator(s) were created and evolution proceeded
unassisted from that point onward? That's highly believable, but it reduces the role of the Creator to that of a very advanced organic chemist
carrying out an (apparently successful) experiment. Or do you believe that the process of evolution still occasionally gets a bit of a jog from the
Almighty, from time to time? There's no way to disprove this, but we see no evidence of such intervention, and there is absolutely no scientific
necessity to argue that it exists; evolution works fine without it.
What I'm trying to show here is that if you believe in a mix of evolution and creation then you're seeing the whole question as one of belief. That
puts you on the creationist side of the fence whether you sympathise with their programme or not. Evolution is not a faith; no-one has to
in it. Evolution is a fact, and natural selection is a scientific explanation for it, based on certain evidence. You either accept or
reject the explanation, based on the quality of the evidence and arguments, and there's an end to it.
There is no scientific evidence or rational argument that supports a mix of creation and evolution. If that is what you believe, there can be only one
reason why: you want to keep believing in God. It's your right to believe whatever you like, of course, but I think you need to be clear about your
It's damn sure not religion pumping the hate on this one.
I suppose the perception depends on one's viewpoint. I can produce documentary evidence to show that religious conservatives were attacking the
concept of evolution well before Darwin published The Origin of Species
. But who started it doesn't really matter; what matters is that
creationism as a political movement is losing ground in America, while scientific rationalism is gaining it.
For that, I think we can all breathe a little prayer of thanks.
edit on 26/6/13 by Astyanax because: of chemistry, not biology.