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Originally posted by redoubt
reply to post by Czulkang
Is there anything in the constitution that would allow us to get rid of them all?
Hell yeah... next election comes around, don't be a patsy for the partisan political olympics. Unelect every single incumbent regardless of party affiliation. Let's build a freshman class of representation who got their jobs because we were fed up with the bovine excrement.
Originally posted by polarwarrior
reply to post by Czulkang
The constitution was ingeniously designed to protect them.... from you.
The constitution is why TPTB have been so successful in America, an why you have had this problem growing since the start.
The bad thing about democracy are problems like this: when equality become so bad that some people are starving, the masses may decide to divide the elites wealth up to feed the poor - so the elite need a way to protect their power and wealth from the horrors of democracy. The constitution did this beautifully. Good luck trying to get your money back from the fed or bank bailouts or anything, the elite are the ones protected... by the constitution!
It is not your document, it was not written by the people for the people. It was written by them, for them.
It has been a fantastic scam though. That document fooled me for a long time.
edit on 17/6/13 by polarwarrior because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by FlyersFan
You asked about the Constitution, but I have a quote from the Declaration of Independence -
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future.
That predates the Constitution ....
"Whenever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force." --Thomas Jefferson: Kentucky Resolutions, 1798.
"Aware of the tendency of power to degenerate into abuse, the
worthies of our country have secured its independence by the
establishment of a Constitution and form of government for our
nation, calculated to prevent as well as to correct abuse."
--Thomas Jefferson to Washington Tammany Society, 1809.
"[The purpose of a written constitution is] to bind up the several
branches of government by certain laws, which, when they
transgress, their acts shall become nullities; to render
unnecessary an appeal to the people, or in other words a rebellion,
on every infraction of their rights, on the peril that their
acquiescence shall be construed into an intention to surrender
those rights." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia, 1782. Q.XIII
"It [is] inconsistent with the principles of civil liberty, and contrary to the natural rights of the other members of the society, that any body of men therein should have authority to enlarge their own powers... without restraint." --Thomas Jefferson: Virginia Allowance Bill, 1778.
"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia, 1782.
"All power is originally vested in, and consequently derived from, the people. That government is instituted and
ought to beexercised for the benefit of the people;
Originally posted by hellobruce
Originally posted by babybunnies
Yes. The idea that the people can replace the Government at any time is a cornerstone guiding principle of the US Constitution.
Exactly where is that stated in the constitution?
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Originally posted by Czulkang
I'm serious, is there? I'm NOT talking about a revolution, im just wondering or would it have to be a state by state recal/special election? and if we did that is there anything else we would need to fix? Special interists, lobbists? The current stock of them all in congress suck, and i mean all of them even my own senator and congressman,
Originally posted by coastlinekid
Our Founding Fathers were very smart guys, and they built the best charter for Humans to follow in a civilized society, however... they require ACTIVE participation of all of the citizenry for the system to work...
We have woefully disregarded that important piece of the puzzle and are now paying the price...edit on 17-6-2013 by coastlinekid because: (no reason given)