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Texans ban "couple" and "partners" in school text books because they are "homosexual"


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Topic started on 7-11-2004 @ 05:56 PM by cheesegoduk


Just spotted this in the financial section of the Sunday mail





Anyone else think this is utter madness? Whist I'm not a homosexual myself, I still think this is taking the "Anti-Homosexual" republican culture thats plaguing the USA a lil to far. How are the words "Couples" and "partners" considered homosexual?? How else are the publishers going to describe love between two people, Straight or otherwise?

The "Are more prone to self destructive behavour" part is stupid as well.
This only hurts children who are already afraid to "come out" about there sexuality, which could affect them more. Havn't they considered that maybe more homosexual's are harming themselves because of the way society views/discrimates them and that by doing this they are just going to make it worse?
The sooner people relise that what someone else does in the bedroom is not there problem/concern, the better



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 06:02 PM by alternateheaven


mmmmm censorship, its not just for breakfast anymore!

Its a shame people have to act this way towards fellow citizens, especially out of fear and hate. Its even worse when they can actually manage to pull off things like Terri Leo is proposing to do



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 06:04 PM by LadyV


Gotta keep those moral standard held high ya know!? Drinking, smoking, prostitution, strip clubs, cheating, lying, fornication out of wedlock, Pornography, extramarital affairs.....but by God there better not be any references to gays, people loving each other wanting to make it legal, or leaving gays alone...no sireeeeedeeee cause we got our moral values to think about ya know!



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 07:44 PM by parrhesia


And to think in the rest of the country people are worried about Political Correctness - Not these people!



This cracks me up.

Is sodomy legal in Texas yet?



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 07:49 PM by Ravenna


if that gets the go ahead, most businesses will have to change their documentation too, either that or they won't be able to have business partners anymore. And what about married couples. I despair sometimes

[edit on 7-11-2004 by Ravenna]



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 07:57 PM by surfup


This is what we get when we have Bush in power. I mean look where it happened.

This is only the beginning...

Surf



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 08:31 PM by GradyPhilpott


Texas has the right to buy books from whomever they choose for whatever reasons they choose. I remember when I was in graduate school in 1994, one of my teachers was exclaiming with joy that our new textbooks had "non-sexist" language in it. You know, he or she, his or hers and whatnot.

She said that she and her lesbian colleagues had been complaining for years to get it changed and it had finally happened. There's no telling how much ink, paper and money has been wasted on this travesty of the English language.

The people of Texas have every right to control the textbooks that their children will learn their values from. There is no censorship involved here, at all. It is the free market at work.



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 08:34 PM by GradyPhilpott



Originally posted by LadyV
Drinking, smoking, prostitution, strip clubs, cheating, lying, fornication out of wedlock, Pornography, extramarital affairs....


Are these subjects covered in textbooks used in primary and secondary schools? If so, are they advocated?



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 08:35 PM by Pisky



Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Texas has the right to buy books from whomever they choose for whatever reasons they choose ... It is the free market at work.


I'm glad I don't live in Texas - with this type of PC crap around, taxes are going to go through the roof.



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 08:49 PM by cheesegoduk


Erm, this issue isn't that Texas has the right to buy whatever it wants, of course it does, rather the issue is the reason is why it was banned

Tell me how the words "Couple" and "Partners" are "Homosexual" in any way, and can't be used to describe tons of other things.
And yes there is censorship at work here, the attempt to get the book changed so it fits in with there own values, sounds like censorship to me



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 09:01 PM by GradyPhilpott



Originally posted by cheesegoduk
Tell me how the words "Couple" and "Partners" are "Homosexual" in any way, and can't be used to describe tons of other things.

The answer is obvious, but I'll let you figure it out for yourself. If the content of the texts makes the people of Texas unhappy, they can buy from whomever they please.



And yes there is censorship at work here, the attempt to get the book changed so it fits in with there own values, sounds like censorship to me


Exactly, but the publisher has the ultimate decision-making power. The people who buy the books have the right to object with their dollars the messages sent to their children via the choice words in the book.

That's not censorship. That's democracy.



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 09:06 PM by intrepid


C'mon Grady, this is WAY over the top. Let's just use the word "couple." Do we refer to the golfer as Fred Nothomosexual? Or could I have a Notgay of eggs, over easy please?



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 09:10 PM by Gazrok


And so it begins....

Warm up ze ovens for das fuhrer!!!

by the way, here's the likely new pledge....hope we like it, as over half of Americans voted for what'll lead to it....

I Pledge Allegiance, to the flag, of the Christian States of America, and to the Theocracy for which it stands...one nation, under God, indivisible....with security and salvation for all.



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 09:14 PM by Valhall


Ok...I'm calling bullcrap. First off, I don't know where you got this, but it darned sure wasn't from Texas. Some UK yellow-rag I'm suspecting.

Texas is fairly liberal in these areas, especially when it comes to education. This whole thing doesn't fit as far as my experience...and I do have experience having had two children in the Texas education system.

I don't buy the legitimacy of this.



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 09:14 PM by GradyPhilpott



Originally posted by intrepid
C'mon Grady, this is WAY over the top.


The last I heard, intrepid, you were living about 1000 miles north of Texas. This is a matter for the citizens of Texas, not our kibbitzing neighbors to the north.



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 09:15 PM by Valhall


Ok...I'm calling bullcrap. First off, I don't know where you got this, but it darned sure wasn't from Texas. Some UK yellow-rag I'm suspecting.

Texas is fairly liberal in these areas, especially when it comes to education. This whole thing doesn't fit as far as my experience...and I do have experience having had two children in the Texas education system.

I don't buy the legitimacy of this.



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 09:20 PM by curme


I googled for the publisher, I didn't find that story, but this is just as bad:




US ; Texas Sex-Ed Texts Barely Mention Contraceptives
46 Hour ago


US News, DALLAS - Texas education officials on Friday approved health textbooks for high school students that extol the virtues of sexual abstinence but only make passing mention of contraceptives, which critics say violates state regulations and endangers the health of teens.

The battle in Texas has national implications because the state is the second-biggest market for textbooks in the United States. Books approved by the state's school board are typically marketed nationally.

The 15-member Texas Board of Education approved four books, all of which promote a birth control program based on abstinence. Three make no mention of contraceptives, while one makes passing references to condoms.
LINKIE




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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 09:22 PM by intrepid



Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

Originally posted by intrepid
C'mon Grady, this is WAY over the top.


The last I heard, intrepid, you were living about 1000 miles north of Texas. This is a matter for the citizens of Texas, not our kibbitzing neighbors to the north.


Go ahead man, live in the 19th century, the rest of the world, including those other 49 states will just sit back and laugh.



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 09:27 PM by denseuno


what a waste of time and money. what else can i say? if this is true, then i feel sorry for the ignorance of that school district. i will laugh if i hear that the schools in texas cant feed their kids because they spent all their budget on getting "neutral" textbooks that the kids dont even use often anyway.



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reply posted on 7-11-2004 @ 09:45 PM by LadyV



Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

Are these subjects covered in textbooks used in primary and secondary schools? If so, are they advocated?

Even you ought to be able to figure it our grady... think reaaaaaaaaaaaaaal hard...you'll get it!



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