Dad Wears Nazi Uniform For Child Custody Case

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000

Originally posted by Tlexlapoca
reply to post by terriblyvexed

 

its NOT nazi name, there is no such thing as a "nazi name". its deutsch name........which happens to resemble the name of a 1940's dictator who was about to take over Europe

That's a little silly isn't it? Adolph is and may always be associated with just one man, due to history.

It's like an American naming their kid Jesus. Now in Mexico Jesus (Pronounced 'hesoos') may work. The full and proper pronunciation though? I'd think the parents played a cruel practical joke on the poor kid for life. He'd never ..ever..live that one down for the teasing and bullying from other kids. Unless he managed to walk on water and smite someone anyway. lol...

Same with Stalin, Genghis or Einstein. None of those names are somehow trademarked, but it wouldn't take more than a second to make the mental connection either ....and whoever named their kid that would know it when they did it. Kinda mean....in my humble opinion.

Kind of sad this previously common name was defiled as it means Nobile.

The name is a compound derived from the Old High German Athalwolf, a composition of athal, or adal, meaning noble, and wolf; compare Rudolf.

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

Interested in seeing the outcome, especially since I have no idea what Family Law in the UK looks like.

It's in a New Jersey Court. The good Ole U.S sure can make them.

reply to post by Char-Lee


Agreed. Heck I was in my late teens before I realized the Nazis hadn't invented the Swastika. They just ripped off an old symbol and tweaked it for their own warped use.

The swastika is an ancient symbol that has been used for over 3,000 years. (That even predates the ancient Egyptian symbol, the Ankh!) Artifacts such as pottery and coins from ancient Troy show that the swastika was a commonly used symbol as far back as 1000 BCE.

Source

They managed to warp a few things beyond reason, didn't they?

Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

 

Interested in seeing the outcome, especially since I have no idea what Family Law in the UK looks like.

It's in a New Jersey Court. The good Ole U.S sure can make them.

Oh, I stand corrected!

Its a toss up. I mean, this is the country that allowed a women to do jury duty dressed in a Star Trek costume. I think the guy is going to have to present his best case, and if that includes wearing a Nazi costume.. then I guess he isn't that serious about getting his kids back, because he must know that it is going to reflect poorly on him.

I mean, I frigging LOVE XMEN, but Im not coming to court dressed like Beast, because I know I'm going to lose.

I'm cool with removing the kids from the home pending charges...however, there needs to be a legal time limit for those charges. In most cases, there isn't, and the kids remain in state custody indefinitely, without any charges EVER being filed, likely because there was nothing to the allegations (except maybe ticking off the wrong neighbor) in the first place.

This gestapo agency has always had far more power than it needs, but no politician will touch them with a 40' pole or they are branded as "against safety for kids".

Is the guy a racist? Probably. But that is neither illegal or grounds for removing his children.

I genuinely don't care if this idiot gets his kids back. Clearly, he doesn't either, otherwise he wouldn't be parading into a court room in full nazi regalia. This guy's an idiot, and frankly his kids are better off for not being around him.

Separating a kid from his parent/s is a pretty big step to take for the guy being an idiot. Don't you think? Do you really think the kid is better off bouncing around through the system?

Anybody who has ever witnessed the mess these agencies can cause wouldn't wish it on their worst enemy.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Oh yeah, I can see how far down the road of proving fitness as a father he has traveled. I'm surprised he wasn't thrown in a cell for contempt.

I mean seriously, does a clown come to court dressed that way with a big red horn nose? Does a fireman come to court in full turnout gear with axe in hand? Would you expect to see a surgeon appear in his scrubs with unknown dark substances across the green of the clothing?

What did this guy think showing up, dressed like a bad nightmare from a long dead past was going to accomplish exactly?

Oh....and I'm not sure what ALL the Uniform insignia means. I don't think it all even matches to be worn together in proper form. However, the Arm band sure shows a level of arrogance to the guy. Supreme Department Leader was my closest catch for it.

I'm sure the collar tabs are officer designation but I can't quite be positive from the video, which? I also can't get a good enough look at his other shoulder to get a solid read on that one for ID. He must have paid a pretty penny for the costume tho. :shk:

IMHO, most of the modern "Nazis" would have been in penal brigades and/or prison had they been around back then. The Nazis were into law and order (at least their law and order).

NEO-Nazis are idiots because they do not have the slightest inkling of what they think they are emulating.

It's not cool and we all know they do it because it shocks people and we really should left the Nazis die and lay on the ashheap of history and good riddance.

Originally posted by Lady_Tuatha
reply to post by superman2012

 

well thank you,

I did nazi that coming. :-p

Now we are married. Sorry, inform your husband or wife and I will inform my wife.

reply to post by Lady_Tuatha


I side with the father in this case. A name doesn't equal child neglect and warrant having the child taken away. Although the whole "I'm wearing a nazi uniform to prove a point" or whatever is just idiotic. He looks like a redneck to me and I doubt the Fuhrer would care to have him in his ranks.

Originally posted by Gazrok

Do you really think the kid is better off bouncing around through the system?

Anybody who has ever witnessed the mess these agencies can cause wouldn't wish it on their worst enemy.

So true. I know of children removed from their parents and placed in the foster care system in a Pacific Northwest state. In these cases there was good reason for removing the children from their birth parents. But the foster care system did not do them any better. One was bounced from foster home to foster home until she was adopted. The kids are left in a foster home just long enough to become emotionally and psychologically attached to the foster family, and are then removed and put with another foster family, never again to see the people to whom they've developed an attachment, and the cycle repeats until the kid is adopted, institutionalized, or emancipated. Talk about engraining mental, emotional, psychological harm in the form of lifetime attachment disorder! Woe to the unsuspecting people who adopt these kids and end up with decades of misery because of it. That occurred in the late 1980s maybe they have cleaned up their methods since then.

This Adolf Hitler worshipping wannabe Nazi is doing his children no favors. He's setting them up for serious personal, psychological, cultural, and social problems. I can't imagine what it would be like to have a father who so openly and publicly displays his admiration for a political cult that espoused extermination of and medical experimentation upon "undesirables" and its historic leaders. What a disturbing experience it would be for a child to have to attend school, sports, and social events, or even be about in public, with a daddy who proudly displays that big Swastika on the side of his neck and sports an Adolph Hitler mustache. The poor kid would have to be continually apologizing, "I'm sorry that my dad's a psycho. Please don't judge me because of him. You wanna come over and play?"

I'll refrain from the typing the epithets that are at the tip of my fingers.

reply to post by Auricom


I wonder if social stigmata is abuse? Is it illegal to impair development that could be proven to be obstructed by rejection that will occur when the child goes out in the world?
I don't have that answer.

reply to post by dubiousone


I am familiar with Washington State. The kids I knew and fostered were older, in their early teens. They had been bounced around by the state from one bad home to another, given mood altering meds because they could not cope, then set free at the age of eighteen to fend for themselves.

Being a licensed foster home in Seattle was a hair raising experience. Personally I don't think they wanted foster homes that would be involved in the well being of these kids.

Originally posted by cavtrooper7
reply to post by Auricom

 

I wonder if social stigmata is abuse? Is it illegal to impair development that could be proven to be obstructed by rejection that will occur when the child goes out in the world?
I don't have that answer.

This is something I have thought about too.
For example, I think there is something wrong with parents who raise their child to be racist, or homophobic, knowing that they will be going into a world unprepared and ill-equipped. I think it's a deliberate form of abuse to knowingly limit your child in such a way.

Ultimately, a parent should be raising their child to be able to have as fulfilling a life as possible, and that cannot happen if you are raising them to be at odds with the society they are going out into.

However, I also understand that there has to be some moral impetus here, otherwise nothing would ever change. In a world where racism was rife and segregation was generally accepted, it's a good thing that Rosa Parks was given the parenting she was to be able to challenge that view.

If parents didn't teach their children to fight the norm - when they feel that it's wrong - would society ever change?

It's an interesting debate

reply to post by Gazrok


Yes, I genuinely do think they're better off 'in the system.' At least that way they have a shot, no matter how remote, of living somewhat normal, happy lives. For every horror story you hear about a foster parent, there are thousands of others who want nothing more than to do good by the children who find themselves in the unenviable situation of having nowhere else to go.

Their mother has already signed her rights to them away, and I believe I read on another site that one of the children had already been adopted.

A normal human being doesn't waltz proudly into court dressed in a Nazi getup. I'm fairly confident that Naziism isn't the guy's only character fault, that kind of thing doesn't happen in a vacuum.

And despite the moral outrage of all of ATS's armchair constitutional attorneys, it's simply not the case that the kids were taken simply because of their names, or their parents choice of 'lifestyle.' There was abuse, or at least allegations of abuse, that prompted the action.

Wow, what's the problem, really...remove the Swastika, a few band trims, buttons, and

All you have is one of the new Federal Polica, like the ones who barged down on Kohesh recently...

Our new SS Fed Paramili juntas,

He should just apply for a position, he just about has the look down, though I do believe our Modern SS federal officers

Are wearing Black, with Red arm bands.

AS for CPS removing kids over DV, WRONG...

They only Pathologize the victim, woman, blame HER for a mans abuse, then coddle the abusive man and give Him custody...UNLESS

The kids are young THEN it's Easy money aka federal dollars to TRAFFICK the kids and use then as drug lab rats in Foster get paid to abuse care...courtesy of tax payer dollars, and of course,

Remember, it's for the Good of All, Progress and science and all that jazz. What's a kid anyway? Washington State,

King County, ESP, oh PEDO Heaven where ole Pimp Services are concerned...CPS, Central Pimp Services

Good money though, if you want a live in slave, just become a foster, ESP hooked in with Arch diocese or be of the Fundie Beat them with Iron Rod Groups (yea those Pearls gotta love them), you can get monthly stipend, (low income mothers/parents don't bother, these Federal dollars are ONLY for the system, parents and families, tough...), get gov aid with food, Daycare, LIFESKILLS expenses, oh yes, clothes expense and medical...a d of course, kids mouth off or that teen girl don't wanna do the ole hubby well then

Oh Community Mental Healh Doc under CPS/adoption-foster Agencies will be More than happy to give that kid a Cocktail of drugs that will make then happy and compliant, just be sure to wipe the drool as they are raped...

Or, if that's too risky because Some counties people getting smart and some kids OMG have SUED in TORT cases, yikes! So, next best thing...Just have the Older Foster kids rape and abuse the younger...keep them in line That way. And if they die,

Well, whoops, just Blame it on the poor Neglectful parents, easy to do, they can't fight back anyway...and no one will care because

The MACHINERY WORKS dont it?

Btw just using Kings County as ONE example, out of thousands...the Child Murdering Exploitation industry,

So if the kids were removed, it was ONLY because this was a case that offended a few powerful Leftie politicians, who are Fascists themselves,

They Have to keep up Some appearances of civility ya Know, can't have them expose who they Truly are!

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

Agreed. Heck I was in my late teens before I realized the Nazis hadn't invented the Swastika. They just ripped off an old symbol and tweaked it for their own warped use.

The swastika is an ancient symbol that has been used for over 3,000 years. (That even predates the ancient Egyptian symbol, the Ankh!) Artifacts such as pottery and coins from ancient Troy show that the swastika was a commonly used symbol as far back as 1000 BCE.

Source

They managed to warp a few things beyond reason, didn't they?

Swastika goes further back than Troy. It goes all the way back to the Sumerians and has also been found carved inside the archeaological ruins of excavated Canaanite temples. It means "good fortune", but for all the people whoever used it, it's been more of a curse in that every civilization thats ever used it has become extinct, including the Anasazi native americans that dwelled in the american southwest.

reply to post by Lady_Tuatha

Surely a parent cannot be judged on their ability to raise a child by the clothes they choose to wear? if this guy chooses to wear a Nazi uniform or even a nuns habit,why should that be used against him?.Granted,it does appear to go beyond the wearing of a particular uniform with this particular individual,who appears to have adopted a liestyle that embraces Aryan/Nazi values,but again,why should that be used to judge his fitness to raise a child?

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

It's true that the swastika has been used by cultures that predated the National Socialists by many centuries,however,the most enduring image of the swastika is it's use on Nazi party flags,banners and uniforms.

Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee

 

Interested in seeing the outcome, especially since I have no idea what Family Law in the UK looks like.

It's in a New Jersey Court. The good Ole U.S sure can make them.

How did the Eddie Izzard (my most favorite comedian) bit go? "Adolf Hitler has ruined the Hitler name for advertising--Adolf Hitler makes exceptionally good pies--it does not work!"

reply to post by Lady_Tuatha


Oh yeah, that's a good look. Goes nicely with the whacky Nazi names for his kids.

This is one cool dad who's sure to win his case!

I feel so bad for his kids.....

Having a psychopath for a father..