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The UK and are just itching to go in there.
Only thing stopping them is the fact that 99% of the population would be against it so they are just slowly edging there, Eventualy there will be involvement.
Originally posted by whatzshaken
reply to post by crazyewok
If 99% of the population thinks the GOVT should not get involved, then its the GOVT's responsibility to provide ample evidence to prove otherwise.
GOVT(Democracy) works for and by the people.
Is it in the best interest of the people to support any form of terror?
That is what you qouted. Why do you now try to twist and turn and deflect?
1. Shouldn't it be the supposed out of thin air '99%' as claimed and accepted by you be the ones responsible to PROVE such a fact, when foreign policy is within the purview and authority of the elected PM, as he has the fullest information, even national security confidential ones to make a decision, as to be able to protect the citizens from all threats to stability anywhere?
2. Should the people then support the Humanslayer continued ethnic cleansing - slaughtering of innocent men, women and children by the tens of thousands, by cowardly doing nothing or offering of any help to those fighting the regime?
You need not reply, if it is to be another deflection or another derailment to this thread.
The Syrian coup d'état of March 1949 was a bloodless coup d'état that took place on March 29 and was the first military coup in the history of Syria. It was led by the Army chief of staff at the time, Husni al-Zaim. Syria's President, Shukri al-Kuwatli, was briefly imprisoned, but then released into exile in Egypt. Al-Za'im also imprisoned many political leaders, such as Munir al-Ajlani, whom he accused of conspiring to overthrow the republic. The coup was carried out with discreet backing of the American ministryand possibly assisted by the Syrian Social Nationalist Party, although al-Za'im himself is not known to have been a member. According to Joseph Massad, a professor of Modern Arab Politics and Intellectual History at Columbia University, the coup was sponsored by the United States CIA  a conclusion in agreement with other historians such as Professor Douglas Little, and declassified records. The coup is also described by author Irene Gendzier, who states that "CIA agents Miles Copeland and Stephen Meade..were directly involved in the coup."
In 1948, Syria was involved in the Arab-Israeli War, aligning with the other local Arab states who were opposed to the establishment of the state of Israel.
Originally posted by whatzshaken
[I am not twisting and turning and deflecting. I was reiterating the previous comment being made while discussing the topic at hand with an ATS member, and you have now decided to add your two cents.
You obviously have been conditioned to have the upmost faith in your GOVT officials who have your, I mean, THEIR, best interest at heart.
If you have something positive to contribute to this thread instead of attacking a small piece of rather irrelevant information with insignificant consequence to the debate itself, "how much of the population wants to go to war"
then I , we are more than happy to discuss the issue at hand with you. If not and you want to deflect and attack, take your hate somewhere else please and thank you
edit on 5-6-2013 by whatzshaken because: spellingedit on 5-6-2013 by whatzshaken because: (no reason given)edit on 5-6-2013 by whatzshaken because: (no reason given)
The US has condemned the Syrian military's attack on Qusair, a strategic town over which it gained control after a bloody siege.
White House spokesman Jay Carney said pro-government forces had clearly needed help from their "partners in tyranny" - Hezbollah and Iran.
A BBC team that visited Qusair found that it was in ruins.
Meanwhile, France said growing proof of chemical weapons use in Syria "obliges the international community to act".
However, President Francois Hollande cautioned: "We can only act within the framework of international law".
Lyse Doucet: "[The rebels] say they're coming back but they'll come back to a city that's gone"
Two UN peacekeepers have been wounded during clashes between Syrian government forces and rebels over control of a border crossing near the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.
The Austrian government decided to withdraw all 380 of its UN peacekeepers from the 900-strong UN mission area on Thursday after the border post was taken by Syrian rebels and then recaptured by government forces during a fierce battle that was still raging.
"We no longer have freedom of movement," Chancellor Werner Faymann and Foreign Minister Michael Spindelegger said in a joint written statement.
"The uncontrolled and imminent danger to Austrian soldiers has reached an unacceptable level."
UN peacekeeping spokeswoman Josephine Guerrero said the withdrawal would affect the operational capacity of the mission observing a decades-old ceasefire between Syria and Israel.
"Austria has been a backbone of the mission and their withdrawal will impact the mission's operational capacity," Guerrero said.
"We are in discussions with them about timing, and with other troop-contributing countries to provide replacement troops."
Israel's foreign ministry issued a written statement saying it regreted Austria's decision and hoped it would not bring further escalation of violence in the region.
Israel has filed a complaint to the United Nations over the clashes near the Syrian border. [AFP]
The United Nations has launched the largest appeal in its history - seeking $5bn (£3.2bn; 3.7bn euros) for humanitarian aid to Syria.
The UN estimates more than 10 million Syrians - half the population - will need help by the end of the year.
As many as four million children are in need of urgent humanitarian assistance, the UN children's agency Unicef says.
UN humanitarian officials have admitted they may struggle to raise the record sums they are now asking for.
Governments were criticised for being slow to commit funds to the previous UN target of $1.5bn for the first six months of this year, the BBC's Nick Childs says.
UN officials say most of that money - $1.2bn - has now been committed, he adds.
But, in Geneva on Friday, the UN said it had revised up the amount of funding needed because of the worsening security situation in Syria.
More than 94,000 people have been killed and some 1.6 million Syrians have fled the country since the civil war began in March 2011 after a crackdown on protests against the government of President Bashar al-Assad.
The number of refugees is expected to reach at least 3.45 million by the end of this year, according to the UN appeal.
Within the country, a total of 6.8 million people are forecast to need aid this year, the majority of them people who have been forced to flee their homes because of the fighting.
Syria's pre-war population was 20.8 million.
]"The credibility for the UN is on the line," she said. "[But] the UN is made up of 193 member states ... crucially we need those 15 countries on the Security Council ... to come together and work together to find a solution."
The Security Council's five permanent members have the power to veto any substantive resolution:
There are 15 members of the Security Council. This includes five veto-wielding permanent members—China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States
Originally posted by whatzshaken
Israel is complaining about a civil war, where the rebels are supported and funded by its allies. I guess this means they need more funding and tactical support.
FYI I spent almost year preparing to participate in the Model UN conference at the Hague in the Netherlands in 2002 Kofi Annan was the key note speaker for point of reference. Our school represented Oman(Lakefield)
Syria's opposition leader has said he will not attend planned US and Russian-backed peace talks in Geneva as he urged the world to act over the conflict.
George Sabra, the acting president of the Syrian National Coalition (SNC), said at a media conference in Istanbul on Saturday that the opposition needed military assistance, not talks.
"Now isn't the time to be thinking about international conferences," Sabra said.
"What is happening in Syria today completely closes the doors on any discussions about international conferences and political initiatives."
He said that the continuing conflict was undermining the stability of the region and that the war would result in mass graves all over Syria.
Sabra said that he wanted urgent military assistance to push back Hezbollah and Iranian fighters who were rushing to major cities.
Israel aims to stay out of Syria's civil war, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said, despite its recent attacks on targets inside the country.
"Israel is not getting involved in the civil war in Syria, as long as the fire is not directed at us," Netanyahu told his cabinet in broadcast remarks on Sunday.
His comments came a week after fierce fighting erupted between Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's forces and opposition rebels near the UN-patrolled armistice line of the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.
Sunday marked the 46-year anniversary since Israel first occupied the territory during the 1967 war.
Israel has conducted at least three air strikes on suspected Syrian depots for weaponry in transit to its Hezbollah allies in Lebanon, and its forces have occasionally shelled Syrian positions in response to shooting at the Israeli side of the Golan.
Austria, a major contributor to the United Nations Disengagement Observer Force, said last week it would withdraw its troops from Golan due to the worsening fighting in Syria, putting the mission in doubt.
"The crumbling of the UN force on the Golan drives home the fact that Israel cannot rely on international forces for its security," Netanyahu said.
He said he would raise the issue with US Secretary of State John Kerry, expected to return to the region in the coming week to try to revive talks on Palestinian statehood.
Israeli cabinet minister Yuval Steinitz said: "We are seeing now what the Austrian forces on the Golan Heights are worth.
“Israel cannot trust international forces and sometimes, as it happens, their presence during crises is more burdensome than useful."
Syrian rebels have attacked a village in the country's east, killing dozens of Shia Muslims, activists said.
A Syrian government official on Wednesday denounced the attack that occurred a day earlier, saying it was a “massacre'' of civilians.
The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said at least 60 people were killed in the village of Hatla in the oil-rich province of Deir al-Zour, bordering Iraq.
A video supplied by the Observatory showed masked fighters shouting, “Here are the Mujahidin [Islamist fighters] celebrating entering the homes of the rejectionists, the Shias.” The authenticity of the video could not be independently verified.
The fighters added that they “burned the homes” of the Shia residents.
The reported killings highlight the sectarian nature of Syria's conflict that has killed more than 94,000 people, according to the UN. Both sides in the fighting have been accused of abuses, with the UN saying that war crimes are a "daily reality" in Syria.
Thousands of rebels took part in the attack and at least 10 of them were killed in the fighting, said the Observatory.
In Damascus, a government official told the AP news agency that the rebels “carried out a massacre against villagers in which older people and children were killed".
Opposition sources told Reuters news agency that "agents" of President Bashar al-Assad had been trying to recruit and arm fighters for his cause, and the Observatory claimed most of the dead were pro-Assad Shia militiamen.
The fighting in Deir al-Zour came a week after Syrian troops, backed by Lebanon's Shia Hezbollah group, captured the strategic town of Qusayr near the Lebanese border after nearly three weeks of fierce battles that killed dozens of troops, rebels and Hezbollah members.
The United States working with European allies has concluded that the Syrian regime has used chemical weapons against
the rebels killing up to 150 people, a top US official has said.
"Our intelligence community assesses that the Assad regime has used chemical weapons, including the nerve agent sarin, on a small scale against the opposition multiple times in the last year," deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes said on Thursday.
He said that the "intelligence community estimates that 100 to 150 people have died from detected chemical weapons attacks in Syria to date."