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Thanks for the huge compliment. Yep, I'm a big fan of Christianity. Are you suggesting that could be my blind spot? You could very well be right.
I have had a few encounters with you Charles and I don't believe for a minute that you would be so easily sucked into anything but Christianity.
Again, I can't provide proof over the internet, but I don't have a fishing license. I don't have any hidden motive. I figure that ATS has a ton of experts on Secret Societies, and Conspiracies, and that makes them the best possible source for opinions. If I don't get any, fine, I'll just have to, as another poster suggested, "Go with my gut."
I smell chum in the water. What are you fishing for Charles?
Originally posted by SuicideBankers
reply to post by charles1952
does your club have a name? How can anyone tell you anything without all the information? I have had a few encounters with you Charles and I don't believe for a minute that you would be so easily sucked into anything but Christianity. I smell chum in the water. What are you fishing for Charles?
Even if it were a bingo club, if it was a front for the Mafia in the area, it would still be significant. But that's not the case. Setting a lower limit on these numbers, the club has at least 75,000 members, and operates in at least 40 states. As I say, I guarantee that it's more than that.
Better not be a bingo club and you're blowing this out of proportion
Alright, I can do that. I don't know how to do any further digging in any case. (Of course, if you have a suggestion in that area, I'd be glad to give it a try.)
I think you should stay in the group, stop digging around and enjoy the benefits. If anything comes to light you can still leave/run.
Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by EA006
Dear EA006,
I'm glad you stopped by. Let me add a little more that seems safe.
Even if it were a bingo club, if it was a front for the Mafia in the area, it would still be significant. But that's not the case. Setting a lower limit on these numbers, the club has at least 75,000 members, and operates in at least 40 states. As I say, I guarantee that it's more than that.
Better not be a bingo club and you're blowing this out of proportion
Alright, I can do that. I don't know how to do any further digging in any case. (Of course, if you have a suggestion in that area, I'd be glad to give it a try.)
I think you should stay in the group, stop digging around and enjoy the benefits. If anything comes to light you can still leave/run.
But what do you suggest if Circle B exists and I am being recruited? Or is it just to early to ask that question? I would like to prepare a little in advance if they do.
With respect,
Charles1952
Except it's not.
The lack of information and especially the lack of a name is clearly a filter.
What I'm actually looking for is some idea of how to approach or consider this situation. I don't have any experience in this area, so I'm relying on ATSers to tell me things like, oh, I don't know, wear a wire to the next meeting? Or, go tell the prominent leader right away that I have no interest in Circle B if it exists? Or, swallow my principles, try to penetrate, and write a book to fund my retirement?
Charles1952 cleverly has set up a means of getting an answer by which he can determine is from someone knowledgeable about the "circle B."
I'm primarily looking for advice and suggestions, not information. If somebody has information I doubt they would give it to me. Besides, I know which club I'm talking about, and the name of Circle B. What are they going to tell me?
What he doesn't know is if he can trust the answer if it is received.
Ok, then, don't send me a U2U, just tell me, based on your experience, what you would suggest as a course of action.
It's also much more likely to be answered in a personal email than openly in the posting if it should remain deeply secret.
That's what I'm having trouble with. I know the guys and their activities at the lowest level. That's all good stuff, a little disorganized and apathetic maybe, but still good guys. I know this to be true as I was their boss for awhile.
You will know it by it's fruits, Charles.
Nobody's ever mentioned it to me. I don't know if I forgot to put it in earlier (I'm pretty sure I did) but I found out about Circle B when I was researching the club and Circle A, which are both public.
My question is simple. Why would the members mention club b in the first place and then get evasive if you asked about it? I mean, wouldn't they just not mention openly that club b was an option?
I don't even know if it exists. I just found that Circle A and Circle B were considered at one time. Circle A was established and Circle B seems to have vanished. Maybe it is gone, maybe it's hiding.
Moreover, what would make you think that club b is anything out of the ordinary?
Absolutely it's possible. As I said he's a crusty old guy with a lot of experience. I took him seriously, but I could have been wrong. Even if I was wrong, I still don't understand the prominent leader's comment about waiting until later.
Isn't it possible that the other member was just pulling your leg? It is very cliche sarcasm to answer "Never ask about "BLANK" when questioning something secretive that you are on the outside circle of?
You might not believe this, but I've forgotten what the red pill is supposed to do.
If I'm wrong, don't take the red pill.