May 20, 2013 | Full List of 171 Documented Israeli Cease Fire Violations – Updated

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What truth? The truth that Israel is better equipped to deal with ANY threat, that they don't deal with any B.S,?

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That they're terrorizing others with death, no matter man, woman or child, while using US Aid in arms and money to do so, while making victims of themselves via lobby groups... What used to be condemnable as a war crime, now is generally accepted because it's Israel. While themselves are what is nowadays called "rogue state", "state sponsored terrorism" and "terrorist heaven".

reply to post by GakunGak


So the Palestinians are innocent in all of this? They don't use terrorism?

reply to post by TDawgRex

The Peace talks are always open, but the PLO, Hamas and Hezbollah have pretty much refused dialogue.

This is a lie. Palestine has come to the peace table many times often without any demands and it is Israel that won't make peace.

Bill Clinton: Netanyahu killed the peace process

Originally posted by hellobruce

Originally posted by GakunGak

Originally posted by TDawgRex
The Peace talks are always open, but the PLO, Hamas and Hezbollah have pretty much refused dialogue.

But how come there are 171 CEASE FIRE violations from Israel's side?
In order for a cease fire to be broken, it first must exist by both sides...

Because when Israel is attacked by terrorists it retaliates.

Even when Israel sets the attack up themselves. The Mossad has been caught shooting the rockets so Israel has a reason to attack.

reply to post by thesaneone


What Palestinian people want is to live their own lives IN PEACE.
What some groups do is use "terrorist" methods to defend themselves and their people against terrorist aggression from Israel.
And here's HAMAS trying to make truce, Israel fails to respond to proposal
rt.com...

Isn't it obvious?

Originally posted by GakunGak
Interesting list. But, what do you expect from people living under constant threat of aggression?
I figure, sooner or later, someone has to respond, right?

You realize that Israel has been living under a constant threat of aggression since it's inception ya?

Both sides are guilty in this, no one's hands are clean.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by GakunGak
Illegal pirate boarding of commercial traffic bound to Gaza, which resulted in civillian casualities by Israel Military

You do understand why Israel runs a blockade in the water, don't you? It's because WEAPONS and AMMO are being illegally smuggled into the Gaza on boats by the Palestinian terrorists. And those weapons are being used on Israeli civilians.

Tell your terrorist buddies in the Gaza to stop importing illegal weapons and ammo via the water and then Israel will have no need to be boarding ships and searching for them.

Oh ... and you might want to tell the Hamas terrorists to fill in the illegal smuggling tunnels that they have set up in the Gaza as well. You know .. the tunnels that they bring weapons and ammo though that is then used to kill Israeli civilians.

Do those things and Israel might ease up a bit on the searches ... ya' know??

You do know the blockade is illegal right? You need an act of war for it to be legal and Benny said the war ended in 09. And boarding ships in international waters is an act of piracy.

reply to post by GAOTU789


And why is that happening? Why are they under constant threat?
Because they like to drama their underdog victim card.
This whole situation could end up being a peaceful place only if they made an effort and actually
left everyone alone and mind their own business, do trade, tourism, stuff like that.
But no, there has to be even more arms in the region, more region destabilization and more threat of violence, like assassination of Iran nuclear scientist, blowing up munitions storage, delaying peaceful nuclear program of a nation that has no interest of harming anyone...

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Then tell the kids not to throw rocks. Today's rock throwers are tomorrows rocket launchers.

That is why Israel wages war on kids huh?

Jewish Leaders Condemn Clip From Netherlands Show that Makes Netanyahu Out to be Child Killer (VIDEO)

“One of the things we are trying to do is maximize the number of civilians casualties,” Netanyahu is heard saying. “We prefer that. I know that you understand this, but if not: this is something I don’t have to explain to Americans, President Obama, you, and the international community.”

The man is truly a bag of scum.

Originally posted by GAOTU789

Originally posted by GakunGak
Interesting list. But, what do you expect from people living under constant threat of aggression?
I figure, sooner or later, someone has to respond, right?

You realize that Israel has been living under a constant threat of aggression since it's inception ya?

Both sides are guilty in this, no one's hands are clean.

Israel started ethnic cleansing on day one. You cannot do this and expect to be welcomed with open arms.

Originally posted by thesaneone
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So the Palestinians are innocent in all of this? They don't use terrorism?

How is someone who is defending their homeland from a hostile invader a terrorist?

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Please that question goes both ways.

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Palestinians invaded and occupied who?
No one.
Israel invaded and occupied who?

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So its okay then that the Palestinian's can attack the Israelis whenever they feel life is not fair to them? Lets blow up some buses to prove our point or lets bomb a disco and kill civilians because two wrongs make a right. Conflict is ugly that is the truth. So what would you prefer, Israel to just sit there and keep getting slapped around and not defend themselves?

reply to post by buster2010


And Israel was attacked on Day One by a coalition of Arab States.

The Jews originally backed a Two State plan for both Israel and Palestine but the Arabs rejected it.

Again, none of the players in this are clean. They all have blood on their hands.

Originally posted by GakunGak

And why is that happening? Why are they under constant threat?

Because the Arab nations refuse to accept a Jewish State in the Middle East.

This whole situation could end up being a peaceful place only if they made an effort and actually
left everyone alone and mind their own business, do trade, tourism, stuff like that.

Really?

Do you read or watch the news that comes out of the Middle east on a daily basis?

But no, there has to be even more arms in the region, more region destabilization and more threat of violence,

You realize that nations such as Russia, China, US, France, UK and so on add the arms to this region and they arm ALL players, either directly or through proxy.

like assassination of Iran nuclear scientist, blowing up munitions storage,

Yup, not the best course of action if you have peaceful intentions is it?

delaying peaceful nuclear program of a nation that has no interest of harming anyone...

Really?

Do you know the history of Hezbollah, Hamas, Iranian Revolutionary Guard and a myriad of other groups that Iran supports financially and materially that carry out terrorist attacks through out the Middle East and around the world? Probably not if you can make a statement like that.

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It is OKAY for Palestinians to attack Israel in SELF DEFENSE, which is what they actually do. When living a life in a big ass prison slash concentration camp, and when they see no one is coming to liberate them from oppression, they try to reason and try to make Israel leave them be. When Israel attacks them in response, they are MORALLY required to shoot a few rockets inside Israel to show, although outnumbered and outgunned, at least they will defend themselves and not lie down and take a bullet to the brain willingly.
As for the bus, the bus was damaged but there were NO CAUSALITIES.
As for slapping around, it was Israel doing it all the time until they crossed the line. So the bully got bullied until the big old brother [US] comes to their aid....

Originally posted by buster2010
You do know the blockade is illegal right?

You do know that if Israel didn't do it, then all those illegally shipped arms and munitions would go to the Gaza and be used to kill Israeli civilians, right? Israel is protecting itself. Tell your Palestinian buddies to stop trying to kill Israeli civilians and stop illegally bringing arms and munitions into the Gaza and Israel won't have to search ships to protect itself.

Originally posted by GakunGak
That they're terrorizing others with death, no matter man, woman or child, while using US Aid in arms and money to do so, while making victims of themselves via lobby groups... What used to be condemnable as a war crime, now is generally accepted because it's Israel.

Replace 'US Aid' with 'Aid from Muslim Countries' and you have just described the Palestinians perfectly.

Originally posted by GakunGak
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As for the bus, the bus was damaged but there were NO CAUSALITIES.
As for slapping around, it was Israel doing it all the time until they crossed the line. So the bully got bullied until the big old brother [US] comes to their aid....

Really? 2003 23 civilians died and more then one hundred injured. Since no one died in the recent bus bombing then its okay?