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Originally posted by WonderBoi
reply to post by neformore
I've presented my facts, but they seem to have gotten buried in all of the insults and names i've been called.
I bounce around because there's so many places to bounce to and so much ground to cover. I hope this isn't the only site you get your "information" from. Again, is that all people can do, insult? Dont you have any facts, or are you just caught up in the moment because of the victims? Everything i've said makes sense! It's up to you to do your own work and put the pieces of your own puzzle together. I see the game and how they're playing it. You're the one that's been blinded by Fox, CNN, and ATS, not me! I've done my research. Anything "new" i come across just confirms what i already know. I made my post a question, for a reason. It's not that any of you can teach me something new. Believe me, you can't! I'm just trying to make others aware of what's going on in our controlled environment called: Planet Earth. To stop at the door, and not even bother to enter the house is pretty foolish. Why did you bother showing up, in the 1st place?
Originally posted by karen61560
reply to post by WonderBoi
WAR? What does that have to do with what you claim in your OP ? You claim that we did this do ourselves to get attention off of scandals in the Whitehouse. You say nothing about war in your OP. Schizophernic much? Bounce around like a little rubber ball all over the place not touching down on any saliant points at any time and argue the whole damn time as well. I guess you have to since you couldnt support your original claims in the first place.
Originally posted by WonderBoi
reply to post by neformore
I've presented my facts, but they seem to have gotten buried in all of the insults and names i've been called. Maybe, people would be singing a different tune, if casualties weren't involved.
Then again, nobody seems to mind making posts regarding 9-11, do they? 9-11 happened in America and became a GLOBAL CRISIS. Last time i checked, we were in a "war on terror" and that applies to EVERYONE IN THE WORLD; not just America. And, the last time i checked, America was the final piece of the puzzle. I guess you think Oklahoma means something to a New World Order.
And you want "proof"? That's proof enough!
Originally posted by flyswatter
"The ionosphere is created and continuously replenished as the sun's radiation interacts with the highest levels of the Earth's atmosphere. The downward coupling from the ionosphere to the stratosphere/troposphere is extremely weak, and no association between natural ionospheric variability and surface weather and climate has been found, even at the extraordinarily high levels of ionospheric turbulence that the sun can produce during a geomagnetic storm"
The above is a factual statement. If you would like to speak about it with the people responsible for making the above statement, here is the contact information:
377th Air Base Wing Public Affairs
2000 Wyoming Blvd. SE
Suite A-1
Kirtland Air Force Base, NM 87117
Of course, you could always look into the scientific facts about ionospheric-tropospheric interactions yourself:
www.sciencedirect.com...
Here's a bit more:
sess.stanford.edu...
And some more:
www.utsa.edu...(d)/pdf/19961.pdf
Mr. OP, got any FACTS to back your side up? Didnt think so.
Positive and negative rules our world. Those are the facts you should start with 1st, before you try to make outlandish claims. As man has demonstrated with the ability to fly, laws of nature can be defied. That's what science does.
Originally posted by JarsCloutLife
Originally posted by WonderBoi
reply to post by neformore
I've presented my facts, but they seem to have gotten buried in all of the insults and names i've been called.
YouTube videos do not necessarily equate to facts. More often than not, they only equate to opinions.
Here are some facts regarding electromagnetic wave propagation: Maxwell's Equations
If you can absorb these facts, then it will be obvious to you that HAARP can not cause tornadoes thousands of miles away.
Is HAARP capable of affecting the weather?
The HAARP facility will not affect the weather. Transmitted energy in the frequency ranges that will be used by HAARP is not absorbed in either the troposphere or the stratosphere - the two levels of the atmosphere that produce the earth's weather. Electromagnetic interactions only occur in the near-vacuum of the rarefied region above about 70 km known as the ionosphere. The ionosphere is created and continuously replenished as the sun's radiation interacts with the highest levels of the Earth's atmosphere. The downward coupling from the ionosphere to the stratosphere/troposphere is extremely weak, and no association between natural ionospheric variability and surface weather and climate has been found, even at the extraordinarily high levels of ionospheric turbulence that the sun can produce during a geomagnetic storm. If the ionospheric storms caused by the sun itself don't affect the surface weather, there is no chance that HAARP can do so either.
Is HAARP a classified project?
HAARP is not classified. There are no classified documents pertaining to HAARP. The Environmental Impact Process (EIP) documents have always been, are now, and will always be completely descriptive of the program in its entirety. The EIP documents are a matter of public record.
Originally posted by siliconpsychosis
Originally posted by flyswatter
"The ionosphere is created and continuously replenished as the sun's radiation interacts with the highest levels of the Earth's atmosphere. The downward coupling from the ionosphere to the stratosphere/troposphere is extremely weak, and no association between natural ionospheric variability and surface weather and climate has been found, even at the extraordinarily high levels of ionospheric turbulence that the sun can produce during a geomagnetic storm"
The above is a factual statement. If you would like to speak about it with the people responsible for making the above statement, here is the contact information:
377th Air Base Wing Public Affairs
2000 Wyoming Blvd. SE
Suite A-1
Kirtland Air Force Base, NM 87117
Of course, you could always look into the scientific facts about ionospheric-tropospheric interactions yourself:
www.sciencedirect.com...
Here's a bit more:
sess.stanford.edu...
And some more:
www.utsa.edu...(d)/pdf/19961.pdf
Mr. OP, got any FACTS to back your side up? Didnt think so.
Before I go, thanks for that information. May I ask (to anyone) how much energy is thrown at the ionosphere daily by the sun? must be gigantic in proportion to anything HAARP sends up.
You ALMOST had me, til you used the Military Industrial Complex as your "source" of "facts". lol They steal the technology and then you're gonna use that as your source? I gave "proof" from the actual SOURCE, which was Tesla. How you delete him from the topic, is beyond me?
Originally posted by siliconpsychosis
Originally posted by flyswatter
"The ionosphere is created and continuously replenished as the sun's radiation interacts with the highest levels of the Earth's atmosphere. The downward coupling from the ionosphere to the stratosphere/troposphere is extremely weak, and no association between natural ionospheric variability and surface weather and climate has been found, even at the extraordinarily high levels of ionospheric turbulence that the sun can produce during a geomagnetic storm"
The above is a factual statement. If you would like to speak about it with the people responsible for making the above statement, here is the contact information:
377th Air Base Wing Public Affairs
2000 Wyoming Blvd. SE
Suite A-1
Kirtland Air Force Base, NM 87117
Of course, you could always look into the scientific facts about ionospheric-tropospheric interactions yourself:
www.sciencedirect.com...
Here's a bit more:
sess.stanford.edu...
And some more:
www.utsa.edu...(d)/pdf/19961.pdf
Mr. OP, got any FACTS to back your side up? Didnt think so.
Before I go, thanks for that information. May I ask (to anyone) how much energy is thrown at the ionosphere daily by the sun? must be gigantic in proportion to anything HAARP sends up.
This is just pathetic. Ive never seen anyone work so hard to avoid providing the 'proof' that they claim they have. Its just deflection after deflection. People usually abandon their threads when it gets this bad.
Originally posted by WonderBoi
You ALMOST had me, til you used the Military Industrial Complex as your "source" of "facts". lol They steal the technology and then you're gonna use that as your source? I gave "proof" from the actual SOURCE, which was Tesla. How you delete him from the topic, is beyond me?
Let me also ask, what do you consider "proof", my version or yours? I can easily decimate your "facts" as could you, with mine. So, who's right, and who's wrong? Right/Wrong...there goes that "positive and negative" connection again. Can you feel the tornado that was created in this topic???? It's easy to make the winds swirl when you got POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE FORCES fighting each other.
How's that for PROOF!
Originally posted by WonderBoi
Positive and negative rules our world. Those are the facts you should start with 1st, before you try to make outlandish claims. As man has demonstrated with the ability to fly, laws of nature can be defied. That's what science does.
Originally posted by JarsCloutLife
Originally posted by WonderBoi
reply to post by neformore
I've presented my facts, but they seem to have gotten buried in all of the insults and names i've been called.
YouTube videos do not necessarily equate to facts. More often than not, they only equate to opinions.
Here are some facts regarding electromagnetic wave propagation: Maxwell's Equations
If you can absorb these facts, then it will be obvious to you that HAARP can not cause tornadoes thousands of miles away.
Those beams can be bounced from location to location, the same way they do with a WIFI connection. That's how! It's really not that difficult. Some of you, should study how sound works. Then, you can understand how these other anomalies are made! Don't get confused to think that HAARP is just an RF tower. If that's what you believe, you should study up on Hz's. You're missing the whole point on what HAARP can do. Everything on our planet has an identifiable Hz. EVERYTHING, on this planet has a specific Hz that it vibrates at. Y'all know so much, but don't even know the basics.
Originally posted by JarsCloutLife
Originally posted by WonderBoi
Positive and negative rules our world. Those are the facts you should start with 1st, before you try to make outlandish claims. As man has demonstrated with the ability to fly, laws of nature can be defied. That's what science does.
Originally posted by JarsCloutLife
Originally posted by WonderBoi
reply to post by neformore
I've presented my facts, but they seem to have gotten buried in all of the insults and names i've been called.
YouTube videos do not necessarily equate to facts. More often than not, they only equate to opinions.
Here are some facts regarding electromagnetic wave propagation: Maxwell's Equations
If you can absorb these facts, then it will be obvious to you that HAARP can not cause tornadoes thousands of miles away.
Well, that is a first for me. I have never heard anyone say that Maxwell's field equations are "outlandish" before.
And judging by how quickly you responded to my post, you did not even bother to try and understand the data I presented to you.
Forget about the energy levels that are required to do what you are talking about for a minute. HAARP's energy is directed (relatively) straight up. So picture this: go outside and point a laser pointer directly above your head towards the sky. Could you see the beam at your feet? Could you see the beam on the ground thousands of miles away?