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Perhaps you missed the site motto. "Deny Ignorance".
You know what's pathetic? Joining a conspiracy site, making a conspiracy post, and having so many people attacking.
Nobodys adamant on quelling it. I guarantee you that if you provide any DECENT evidence, people will be all over it.
That's what's pathetic! Why are some of you so adamant on quelling the HAARP theory?
Are you for real? People on ATS are free to discuss any possibility that they want. If you're expecting everyone to fall in line "cuz you say so", well, you're probably in the wrong place.
? I've noticed the same pattern regarding the chemtrail topic. We live in a world of possibilities, accept for here on ATS.
So, is this you admittance that you do not have proof, or facts, on this topic?
On ATS, nothing is possible because we don't have "proof" or "facts".
This site doesn't need "moderators". ATS needs "mediators". lol Maybe a judge who hasn't been bought and paid for by the NWO, that can weigh the facts and give us a verdict.
I used to work in a school district with autistic children, so maybe that makes me government affiliated? If not, sorry, but you're just wrong, and just another of a long line of childish people who accuse everyone of being bought and paid for if they dont believe every word out of their mouth.
I'm also going to go out on a limb and say that most of the "naysayers" to advanced technology/scalar weapons are government affiliated.
Probably military.
There certainly are some here. That, however, doesnt negate the fact that you are yet to provide one single piece of evidence.
. I'm CERTAIN they're all over this site, shilling and giving misinformation to people who refuse to seek knowledge for themselves.
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posted on 21-5-2013 @ 04:49 PM this post reply to post by samlf3rd
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If only cloud seeding were as realiable as you seem to think. We would not be suffering a drought right now if we could just place an order for rain.
To simply say, tptb can't manipulate natural phenomena is a complete and utter LIE! They can and they have. Do some research regarding "Hurricane Sandy" for further explanation. Don't get caught up into believing that HAARP is just an RF antennae. Lots of things can be done to specific frequencies. Vibrations causes objects to move!
A recent observation using an infrasonic observatory collocated with a Doppler radar provided a unique dataset for comparing infrasonic measurements with well-observed storm kinematics. The sound direction and elevation angle followed the trend of the movement of the vortex circulation maximum as a function of time. Sufficient information was available to compare the acoustic spectra with that predicted by sound generation models, suggesting that the sound originated from vortex radial modes of vibration. Radial vortex vibration as a source of infrasound is discussed in more detail in a later section.www.esrl.noaa.gov...
For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.
Yes, the SITE's motto is "Deny Ignorance", it doesn't stop people from being ignorant. So much to learn, so little time to tech you. I can teach you from any angle you choose. But, you say i'm "bouncing".
A recent observation using an infrasonic observatory collocated with a Doppler radar provided a unique dataset for comparing infrasonic measurements with well-observed storm kinematics. The sound direction and elevation angle followed the trend of the movement of the vortex circulation maximum as a function of time. Sufficient information was available to compare the acoustic spectra with that predicted by sound generation models, suggesting that the sound originated from vortex radial modes of vibration. Radial vortex vibration as a source of infrasound is discussed in more detail in a later section.www.esrl.noaa.gov...
Not one person that I have seen in this thread has claimed anything of the sort. Funny how you shifted from "haarp can do it" to "tptb can do it". Very, very intellectually dishonest.
To simply say, tptb can't manipulate natural phenomena is a complete and utter LIE!
Yes they have. And no one is saying they havent.
They can and they have
. Do some research regarding "Hurricane Sandy" for further explanation.
Like I keep saying, provide me with a little evidence to back up the claim, and Ill gladly listen. "cuz I say so" is not valid evidence.
Don't get caught up into believing that HAARP is just an RF antennae. Lots of things can be done to specific frequencies. Vibrations causes objects to move!
Yup, many, many times. They 'say' a lot of things. They, like some posters, tend to shrink when asked to prove it, however.
Have you examined the evidence? What they are saying?
Ive never been told not to listen to them, so I am not sure what you mean.
Why you are told not to listen to them?
maybe. But until someone presents evidence to back it up, I highly doubt it.
Maybe there is some truth to what they collectively are saying?
Im assuming this is rhetorical?
How many plans/operations go ahead as prepared or predicted?
Ok?
This "organisation" will slip up and when they do they have to cover their tracks, divert the public.
Ahhh to be one of the enlightened who requires no evidence to be convinced...
Bye some Time. Those who are prepared need to make others aware of the means in which this diabolical scheme, is being carried out.
I mean NO EVIDENCE.
what do mean no evidence?
Ive been researching these topics for over a decade. Thanks, though.
Look up NWO Illuminati and branch from there
This is a little sad. Really.
The Vatican, Freemasonry UFO, operation high jump.
And herein lies the problem. You all would use youtube and conspiracy sites as 'evidence'.
plenty of info online and on youtube
Originally posted by WonderBoi
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Yes, the SITE's motto is "Deny Ignorance", it doesn't stop people from being ignorant. So much to learn, so little time to tech you. I can teach you from any angle you choose. But, you say i'm "bouncing".To simply say, tptb can't manipulate natural phenomena is a complete and utter LIE! They can and they have. Do some research regarding "Hurricane Sandy" for further explanation. Don't get caught up into believing that HAARP is just an RF antennae. Lots of things can be done to specific frequencies. Vibrations causes objects to move!
A recent observation using an infrasonic observatory collocated with a Doppler radar provided a unique dataset for comparing infrasonic measurements with well-observed storm kinematics. The sound direction and elevation angle followed the trend of the movement of the vortex circulation maximum as a function of time. Sufficient information was available to compare the acoustic spectra with that predicted by sound generation models, suggesting that the sound originated from vortex radial modes of vibration. Radial vortex vibration as a source of infrasound is discussed in more detail in a later section.www.esrl.noaa.gov...
No, because any shmo can make a youtube video. Some may be great, but reliance on them as evidence is silly.
Your discrediting youtube because its videos are rated on a likeable scale?
I give you guys credit for your persistence in deflection, if nothing else. Its just unfortunate that you seem to think that giving someone the runaround and relying on speculation is a proper replacement for fact based evidence.
Information is neither judgemental nor biased. That is left up to you, to do what is right for the future
Have you examined the evidence?
What they are saying?
Why you are told not to listen to them?
Maybe there is some truth to what they collectively are saying?
For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.
A wishing well of symbolism...
There is no run around here.
A) you believe the NWO agenda is being implemented
B) you are ignorant to the entire scope of this monolithic and ruthless conspiracy.
C) Your with them. Now you may be forced to cooperate with their agenda due to their influence, or support them.
k?
You have stated you have educated yourself with the history of this NWO agenda so then you must understand the depths these theorist have informed you of the globally historic conspiracy.
Still with the runaround, still not one piece of evidence.
There fore you are not ignorant of the situation so it is possible you did not get your money's worth on that wish...
Never said anything of the sort, and I still fail to see how this, in any way, correlates to the accusation that HAARP was used in OK.
Now if you are educated and have decided that the existence of the NWO agenda is not substantial enough in the evidence throughout history that support this theory, that's okay. But its Time to start thinking outside the box
Or maybe, I prefer to base things off of facts and evidence.
Or however, with all your education you have decided to support this agenda.
On the side of logic and reason. Seems a pretty lonely place to stand these days.
The question I pose to you is where do you stand?
That you think these are the only two options says it all.
Not fully aware to the substantial nature of this theory, or support the NWO agenda?
"There is no run around here."
Yes, there is.
posted on 21-5-2013 @ 06:22 PM this post reply to post by whatzshaken
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And? Those are oldies but goodies. What, exactly, does that have to do with HAARP and tornadoes?