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Originally posted by muse7
non issue
Originally posted by MrWendal
reply to post by muse7
You would say that but I disagree and suggest that it is an issue.
FACT: MCO P1020.34F of the Marine Corps Uniform Regulations chapter 3 states a male Marine is not allowed to carry an umbrella while in uniform. There is no provision in the Marine Corps uniform regulation guidelines that allows a male Marine to carry an umbrella.
So to order a Marine to disregard a basic protocol in favor of his own personal comfort is just another sign of Obama's willingness to thumb his nose at the rules for his own personal gain.
However, let us suppose this was simply an innocent mistake, which I believe it to be, then that is actually a different issue. It would go to show that the President, the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of this Country, has no clue of the rules of his own troops that he commands and in actuality I think this is a much bigger issue than if he had ordered the Marine to hold the umbrella.
Other Presidents have used umbrellas, they have carried it themselves. They have had any member of their staff hold it. They have had Secret Service hold it. Interns have done so. The President has many options to choose from if he needs someone to hold his umbrella. Even the Queen of England holds her own umbrella, so in some ways I think having a Marine do so is a bit insulting.
Marines are a different breed of Military. They have a long history of tradition. They are very very proud, and as far as the armed services goes, they are what one could describe as more exclusive. Not everyone can join the Army, but even less can become a Marine. Of all our Armed Forces, the Marines are the smallest group.
Originally posted by MrWendal
FACT: MCO P1020.34F of the Marine Corps Uniform Regulations chapter 3 states a male Marine is not allowed to carry an umbrella while in uniform. There is no provision in the Marine Corps uniform regulation guidelines that allows a male Marine to carry an umbrella.
Originally posted by beezzer
I'd make this a non-issue the second someone can post a photo of a marine holding an umbrella for Bush(s), Reagan, Ford.
. . . waiting. . .
Regulations prohibit Marines from using umbrellas while in uniform. One reason: it makes it hard to salute.
According to Marine Corps spokesman Capt. Greg Wolf, the sight of uniformed Marines holding umbrellas is "extremely rare" and only happened because the president needed it.
And, of course, Obama is the commander-in-chief. If he orders Marines to hold umbrellas, they hold them, even if they can't properly salute.
Originally posted by Kryties
No wonder this world is in the mess it is when people are more worried about Marines using umbrellas out of uniform than trillions of dollars being spent blowing up Arabs, governments turning countries into police states, corporate greed bankrupting and destroying the world and creating millions upon millions of starving homeless people and the planet getting raped of it's resources....
But that's OK, as long as people get to complain about trivial nonsense then the big issues can be forgotten about, correct?
Originally posted by Rocker2013
I'm with you, but don't you think it's a little idiotic for the President to be standing there with someone holding an umbrella over him like some kind of Pharaoh being fanned by slaves?
"On the IRS scandal, Obama said he knew nothing of what was going on"
"It has emerged that his State Department political appointees intervened in the aftermath of the 2012 terror attack, in a process that resulted in a misleading set of talking points which ignored terrorism in favor of a more muted explanation, in the midst of a re-election campaign."
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