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As for me, all I know is that I know nothing...
Socrates
As for me, all I know is that I know nothing...
Socrates
44 The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field. When a man found it, he hid it again, and then in his joy went and sold all he had and bought that field.
45 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls.
46 When he found one of great value, he went away and sold everything he had and bought it.
Source: King James version of the Holy Bible.
Originally posted by NorEaster
The whole writhing mass that is higher thought is completely helpless, and it's the dedicated intent of brilliant people to ensure that it remains completely helpless. Even on this board, it's evident every single day that intellectuals are like lobsters in a tank, and that no one is going to ever let anyone else make it up to the lid. Not even for a peek over the lip to see if there's anything out there. The real point of intellectualism will always be to drag the highest one back down again. Just an endless wasted effort.
Originally posted by mysticnoon
reply to post by LesMisanthrope
Regarding the Socrates quote, I think it is merely an expression of humility in the face of the immensity of Reality.
So how well would you say you know the universe? Or does that not matter, for truth has nothing to do with knowing?
I want to respond to your OP because I feel like discussing philosophy but after reading it and skimming over it again, im not quite sure where you are coming from. You think truth doesnt exist or is meaningless, and that only what people create and think is real or truth? or you think truth does exist, but we cant know it all, so it doesnt matter? Or you think truth does exist, but we can know some of it, and that is our knowledge and our truth, and we use that to make more truth? What matters, whats the point, what should we do and why?
I like to use the word truth as the same as Reality because such Truth is what one's fundamental and inherent heart-intelligence recognizes once the separative mental distractions of the knower seeking knowledge are relaxed at least for a few moments.
Such conventional knowing of knowledge is never satisfying - we lust for more and more, and of course this has led to many beneficial discoveries, but it is never the truth or Reality, as you rightly point out. Only recognition of Reality satisfies us at depth because it undoes the endless and futile search for such knowledge or union (with truth).
Good assessment. It seems fair that we've simply been asking the wrong questions.
The trouble I see with equating absolute truth with knowledge rather than with reality, is that knowledge is quite often only apparently factually true for the time being, rather than absolutely true. What was knowledge or true last week or last year, is quite often bs today.
Why not release the separative seeking, even just for a while, and abide as who we already are, Reality or Consciousness Itself, already in unity. Such is heart-satisfying, and nothing else ever is. Can we actually release such seeking for knowledge and abide as the Reality we are? This is a most important question in my view.
You mean satisfying ourselves with a line of fecal matter designed to curtail our curiosity so that we never have to discover how much we really don't actually know. You would make an excellent politician. And in fact, that is exactly the kind of subconscious factor that inspires such distrust in LesMis, as we consistently sabotage our attempts to be honest with ourselves in an effort to establish a more emotionally secure existence.
Correct me if you feel I am wrong regarding your message, Les.