Dad who died during arrest 'begged for his life'; witness videos seized

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posted on May, 10 2013 @ 11:41 PM
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Dad who died during arrest 'begged for his life'; witness videos seized


www.bakersfieldcali fornian.com

"When I got outside I saw two officers beating a man with batons and they were hitting his head so every time they would swing, I could hear the blows to his head," Ceballos said.

Silva was on the ground screaming for help, but officers continued to beat him, Ceballos said.

After several minutes, Ceballos said, Silva stopped screaming and was no longer responsive.

"His body was just lying on the street and before the ambulance arrived one of the officers performed CPR on him and another one u
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posted on May, 10 2013 @ 11:41 PM
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Is it legal to seize video like that? I'm not sure of Californian law, but I assume it is not. Reading the eyewitness testimony is pretty horrendous "When I got outside I saw two officers beating a man with batons and they were hitting his head so every time they would swing, I could hear the blows to his head,"

So many officers against a man already on the ground? Not sure if he was armed? I hope they are forced to release the footage.

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posted on May, 10 2013 @ 11:50 PM
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they cant seize tapes... unless theres a crime

best idea, is to publish it quickly....then watch them squirm

scum...

i just hate the idea of seeing this happening in front of me....and if i tried to stop it... id get a baton inprint... at best!

always upsets me when i see officers behaving in the very way we pay them to stop.

funny world sometimes

its like paying a tax driver to sit in traffic... completely defeats the purpose
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posted on May, 10 2013 @ 11:52 PM
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Wow, kinda scary how cops treated the ones who videotaped it as if they had committed a serious crime. Guess they were trying to keep their mugs off youtube. As for the guy who died, surprised the dog wasn't enough to get him to comply.



posted on May, 10 2013 @ 11:52 PM
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Footage? What footage? We took the phones as evidence but they contained nothing. It seems everyone forgot to push record. Happens a lot when people get excited. Every time I check a recording there is never anything to use as evidence. People are funny that way.

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posted on May, 11 2013 @ 12:05 AM
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Yet another out of court execution by the boys in blue.Have the phones for years?How long does it take to transfer a possible 2 minuit video?I'm pretty sure the poor guy died of a major brain injury if witnesses are right.And why do I think that if and when the phones are returned the video would have been erased.All for the crime of public intoxication?I'm waiting for neiborhoods to start ambushing police.A father of 4 kids doesn't sound dangerous enough for a death beating.Damn Pigs.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 12:10 AM
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Yeah, you bet that's likely here. Whoopsie! It's all gone.

I'm looking for an iPhone development project for my first one, and while I was going to do a fairly immature, crude, awful, profane, disgusting multiplayer action game, it might be more entertaining to develop the other thing I was looking at, which is a use for old phones as secret data stashes.

If anyone carrying around their previous cell phone could be a high speed local data repository for someone recording cops, then go ahead and snag the one in my hand, the old 3G in my wife's purse is doing double duty as a backup instead of rotting in a drawer.


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posted on May, 11 2013 @ 12:24 AM
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There should be a service (nopt sure if there is actually) that lets you stream your video direct to an online server.

So they can nick your phone all they like, the evidence is already on the net.

I swear every time I read or hear about this sort of thing, seeing it just makes me want to puke... they know exactly what they're doing and they don't want it spread about. Well it's getting very very short on everyones limits...

last time I mentioned what I'd do in such a situation, I got a u2u with a naughty naughty.


grr



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 12:39 AM
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See Winofiend post below your. Stream it to your home computer or a cloud would be ideal.. Perhaps I have your idea wrong but you have to be able to di this almost instantly. I have the idea from your post of having to set my phone up and then set the wifes up by which time it is too late.

A one button start recording and streaming would be the way to go perhaps.

We had a case in Australia where the first 30secs of a digital recording was lost by the police. As I understand digital recordings that can not happen.

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posted on May, 11 2013 @ 12:51 AM
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Well, there damn sure better be the same number of phones available for evidence in their criminal and civil trials as there were taken that night.

Then, I really hope EVERY last piece of garbage with a badge who was present ...actively engaged OR NOT... goes to one of California's Institutions of higher learning. Like Folsom or San Quentin ...with a FULL disclosure to the general population of just who they are, what they did for a living and what got them in there to do years with everyone else.

See how long it takes for them to join this man...in the very same way HE died.

There are good cops. There are bad cops. Then there are criminal bastards who, somehow, got themselves a badge and authority to become criminals in charge. Well.. Let them be in charge of an 8x10 until the other inmates show them what being beat to death is like to experience. This story is infuriating!



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 12:54 AM
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I hope these scum bags die a slow plainful death, hopefully in front of their families. I have no love for bad people, that I leave to Jesus.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 12:57 AM
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Wow things are getting interesting, seizing video tape right after
sure makes this seem suspicious, and with the police track record
of abuse i simply cannot believe they did it altruistically, i am so tired
of this, police should be tapped at every single interaction with
citizens and it should be available to the public for free on a web
server for their local county, direct stream with no editing or access
by the officers, they cannot be trusted to tell the truth and not
act emotionally to someone resisting, i get sometimes you have
to use force, but i have never seen an instance where an unarmed
man could not be restrained without killing him unless there
was a severe lack of restraint by those officers, its different when
they accidentally shoot someone, that could be either way but
beating someone to DEATH takes allot of work...... and generally
the offender will be no threat long before death...... GRRRRR i am
so tired of police abusing their power and then getting away
with violating folks rights who could show the world the truth,
this is why our rights should be paramount..... police need to
be severely reigned in.
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posted on May, 11 2013 @ 01:06 AM
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You ask..

Google glass

I really wonder what's going to happen when these things become mainstream...

Peace



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by pheonix358
reply to post by Bedlam
 


See Winofiend post below your. Stream it to your home computer or a cloud would be ideal.. Perhaps I have your idea wrong but you have to be able to di this almost instantly. I have the idea from your post of having to set my phone up and then set the wifes up by which time it is too late.


Don't know about you, but streaming it here in Bakersfield (where I'm at at the moment) is problematic. Neither Verizon nor AT&T are very fast or reliable. Same issue if you're on the road.

However, if your spare phone was lying about in snooze mode until it's linked to by some bystander's camera, then it would be pretty sweet as an untraceable stash.

My old 3G stays charged for days if it's not on the phone network with nothing but the wi-fi going.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 01:31 AM
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I don't think all Police are scum, In fact I have good mates who are coppers, and when I run from something, they are the first to run towards the danger. That said, this incident should be judged for the individual actions, and I'm not intending to create a blanket "hate cops thread".

It is also early stages, I will be incredibly interested to see what more information comes to hand. You don't beat someone to death. That is just vile.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 01:41 AM
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Originally posted by winofiend
There should be a service (nopt sure if there is actually) that lets you stream your video direct to an online server.

So they can nick your phone all they like, the evidence is already on the net.

I swear every time I read or hear about this sort of thing, seeing it just makes me want to puke... they know exactly what they're doing and they don't want it spread about. Well it's getting very very short on everyones limits...

last time I mentioned what I'd do in such a situation, I got a u2u with a naughty naughty.


grr


I am pretty sure there was an app that let people directly stream to YouTube. I remember reading another police brutality case where this was how the video got leaked to the public. Not sure if it was the cop shooting kid on back at train station or which one specifically, but yeah, everyone needs an app where you click it, it automatically starts recording and uploading.

Seems "obstruction of justice" is not a two-way street.




posted on May, 11 2013 @ 01:44 AM
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Hey, it's another one of those FOP suggestions, I'd expect. Either try to claim you thought it was a cell phone gun and do a beatdown, or confiscate it permanently and claim it's material evidence.
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posted on May, 11 2013 @ 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by zazzafrazz
I don't think all Police are scum, In fact I have good mates who are coppers, and when I run from something, they are the first to run towards the danger. That said, this incident should be judged for the individual actions, and I'm not intending to create a blanket "hate cops thread".

It is also early stages, I will be incredibly interested to see what more information comes to hand. You don't beat someone to death. That is just vile.


Cops that become scum do so because of the atmosphere/habits/standards set out by the controlling or prominent personalities in their given command/division/unit/precinct/etc.

They might become scum because there are no checks and balances with whichever agency they are with. Automatically the job draws a certain type of people. I think it's well established that the personalities drawn to the job, at a young age when checking off possible future careers will have their ⌧sheet look like this:

☑Cops
☑Bank Robber
☐Astrophysicist
☑Mafia
☐Doctor
☐Salesman
☑Special Agent FBI

Yup...

There's a reason those people are drawn to either side for employment. No one played Cops & Nurses when they were kids. Or, Musicians & Robbers...



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by winofiend
There should be a service (nopt sure if there is actually) that lets you stream your video direct to an online server.

So they can nick your phone all they like, the evidence is already on the net.

I swear every time I read or hear about this sort of thing, seeing it just makes me want to puke... they know exactly what they're doing and they don't want it spread about. Well it's getting very very short on everyones limits...

last time I mentioned what I'd do in such a situation, I got a u2u with a naughty naughty.


grr


There is something called DRPOBOX.

You install it on your phone and your PC. Every photo or video you take with your phone is then sent directly to your PC and is saved on Dropboxes servers aswell. It's free.



posted on May, 11 2013 @ 03:05 AM
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All I can say zazz, is ... AGAIN!??
Really? Four more kids without a dad!

Slightly off topic but it was good to see crown casino bouncers pinged for a death recently.

Protect and Serve ? .... A new catch phrase is in order.





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